bought the cadilac of AR mags!!!

customaquatics · October 19, 2012, 07:09 PM

i was in the shop an bought all the AR mags he had "used for $10 a pop" an i found i don't wanna say it but a Heckler & Kock 6mbH Restricted Law Enforcement / Government Use Only 10-94!!!!! i went to the H&K website an there going for $60 a piece heck ya!!! the next one i got was a FNH mag but the H&K is the best deal i've ever got.

BLUETIP · October 20, 2012, 07:53 AM

NICE FIND

kraigwy · October 20, 2012, 08:05 AM

I found the best mags for the AR are the old standard 20 rd mags for the M16. Made of steel and always worked.

I always figured if I can't do it with 20 rounds the extra 10 are gonna be a waste anyway.

Any in 3 gun, I've never seen the advantage of 30 rounders over the 20.

Plus, like I learned in SE Asia, I only load 18 in the 20s.

kraigwy · October 20, 2012, 08:17 AM

Sorry, double tapped.

BlackJackID · October 20, 2012, 08:44 AM

Congrats...I love finding deals like that.

DasGuy · October 20, 2012, 01:06 PM

What's special about them besides having "H&K" on them?

5.56RifleGuy · October 20, 2012, 01:09 PM

Im pretty sure they are stainless steel.

p loader · October 20, 2012, 06:29 PM

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Plus, like I learned in SE Asia, I only load 18 in the 20s.

I've always loaded 30 in my 30 round mags. Never had any issues. I like Pmags but issued ones will work too.

Destructo6 · October 20, 2012, 10:43 PM

The HK steel mags were the thing for a while.

They are a novelty without any real advantage.

Good find, though. Its always nice to add to the collection.

triage1998 · October 21, 2012, 11:39 AM

Nice find!

allaroundhunter · October 21, 2012, 05:33 PM

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i found i don't wanna say it but a Heckler & Kock 6mbH Restricted Law Enforcement / Government Use

They are a nice find for sure, and very nice mags; but I have never found them to be more durable/reliable than my PMags.

And also, it is Heckler and Koch, GmbH

SPEMack618 · October 22, 2012, 06:00 PM

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I've always loaded 30 in my 30 round mags. Never had any issues. I like Pmags but issued ones will work too.

I always loaded 28 in my 30 rounders, even th PMAGS simply becaus it was easier to seat the mag in the gun.

MikeGunz · October 22, 2012, 06:05 PM

Had a few of those sold all but 2. The differences are theyre built like a tank, have a steel dual follower, about a 1/2in longer, there fore hold 30 rds better than a standard issue GI mag. When I was in Iraq 06' we were issued them and a few made it home with me. They were the best before P-Mags came out.

raimius · October 24, 2012, 08:06 PM

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I've always loaded 30 in my 30 round mags. Never had any issues. I like Pmags but issued ones will work too.

I've seen fully loaded Pmags fail to seat properly when inserted into an AR-15 with the bolt closed. I found out the hard way, when running a move-and-shoot course. I had my 30+1, and as soon as I fired my first shot, the mag fell out!

Destructo6 · October 25, 2012, 02:19 PM

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and as soon as I fired my first shot, the mag fell out!

That's why you always do a "tap & tug" when seating on a closed bolt.

Bamashooter · October 25, 2012, 03:04 PM

I was under the impression that P-Mags were the cadillac of AR magazines. Followed by Lancer Warfighter and Tangodown. P-Mags are so cheap and reliable I dont see buying anything else. I have yet to have a problem with my rifle due to magazine. P-mags are the best.

allaroundhunter · October 25, 2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by raimius

I've seen fully loaded Pmags fail to seat properly when inserted into an AR-15 with the bolt closed. I found out the hard way, when running a move-and-shoot course. I had my 30+1, and as soon as I fired my first shot, the mag fell out!

That isn't the Pmags failing to seat properly, that is you failing to seat the Pmag.

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Bart Noir · October 26, 2012, 01:53 PM

Kraigwy, I also like the metal 20-rounders. But I notice that you said they were steel.

So, since I like to learn things, were the original 1960's 20-round mags made of steel, not aluminum?

Bart Noir

raimius · October 26, 2012, 08:54 PM

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That's why you always do a "tap & tug" when seating on a closed bolt.

Yep! Learning occurred that day.

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That isn't the Pmags failing to seat properly, that is you failing to seat the Pmag.

Even when using quite a bit more than the normal force to try to seat the mags, it didn't always work. If a healthy, athletic 20 year old male cannot get it to seat normally or by really slamming it home, I'd call it a failure to seat properly.
Simple solutions though...don't try to load a full 30 with a closed bolt. Works just about perfect when you don't do that.

insomni · October 27, 2012, 02:40 PM

nice find on the HK mags! I'd be inclined to grab a few more just to stick up on ebay!

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Simple solutions though...don't try to load a full 30 with a closed bolt. Works just about perfect when you don't do that.

The M-16 was DESIGNED to be loaded from the open bolt position. it USUALLY works with the closed bolt, but as has been mentioned, there can be issues with that from time to time.

as for me, I've had PMags in some pretty craptacular places, conditions, and situations, and never had a single problem with them. I even dropped one, which landed lips down, cracked the spine about 1". it dumped 4 rounds out when I picked it up, and then cycled the remaining 26 flawlessly. I tossed it afterwards, but any mag that can fire 26rounds despite critical damage is a winner in my book.

I think i'd call them the Tacoma (inexpensive, rugged, reliable) of magazines, and reserve the caddy title for the H&K ones

Quentin2 · October 27, 2012, 07:22 PM

I also stumbled across a cheap H&K LEO only mag a couple years ago. Hardly ever use it now, too heavy plus I like good GI or polymer mags.

October 19, 2012, 07:09 PM	#1
customaquatics Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2011 Location: illinois Posts: 678	bought the cadilac of AR mags!!! i was in the shop an bought all the AR mags he had "used for $10 a pop" an i found i don't wanna say it but a Heckler & Kock 6mbH Restricted Law Enforcement / Government Use Only 10-94!!!!! i went to the H&K website an there going for $60 a piece heck ya!!! the next one i got was a FNH mag but the H&K is the best deal i've ever got. __________________ 23 year old NRA member AKaholic #158907 , 1942 Ex-Sniper Izzy Mosin Nagant, 1970's Marlin 30-30, Remington 870 tatical, Charter Arms The Pink Lady 38 Special.

October 20, 2012, 08:05 AM	#3
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	I found the best mags for the AR are the old standard 20 rd mags for the M16. Made of steel and always worked. I always figured if I can't do it with 20 rounds the extra 10 are gonna be a waste anyway. Any in 3 gun, I've never seen the advantage of 30 rounders over the 20. Plus, like I learned in SE Asia, I only load 18 in the 20s. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

October 20, 2012, 08:17 AM	#4
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	Sorry, double tapped. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

October 20, 2012, 10:43 PM	#9
Destructo6 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 1999 Location: Nogales, AZ USA Posts: 4,000	The HK steel mags were the thing for a while. They are a novelty without any real advantage. Good find, though. Its always nice to add to the collection. __________________ God gave you a soul. Your parents, a body. Your country, a rifle. Keep all of them clean.

October 21, 2012, 11:39 AM	#10
triage1998 Member Join Date: June 17, 2002 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 57	Nice find! __________________ http://nightingaleleather.com [email protected]

October 20, 2012, 07:53 AM	#2
BLUETIP Senior Member Join Date: September 30, 2012 Location: tennessee Posts: 119	NICE FIND

October 20, 2012, 08:44 AM	#5
BlackJackID Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2011 Posts: 159	Congrats...I love finding deals like that.

October 20, 2012, 01:06 PM	#6
DasGuy Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2011 Posts: 318	What's special about them besides having "H&K" on them?

October 20, 2012, 01:09 PM	#7
5.56RifleGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,212	Im pretty sure they are stainless steel.

October 22, 2012, 06:05 PM	#13
MikeGunz Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2011 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 195	Had a few of those sold all but 2. The differences are theyre built like a tank, have a steel dual follower, about a 1/2in longer, there fore hold 30 rds better than a standard issue GI mag. When I was in Iraq 06' we were issued them and a few made it home with me. They were the best before P-Mags came out. Last edited by MikeGunz; October 22, 2012 at 06:13 PM.

October 25, 2012, 03:04 PM	#16
Bamashooter Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2010 Posts: 1,860	I was under the impression that P-Mags were the cadillac of AR magazines. Followed by Lancer Warfighter and Tangodown. P-Mags are so cheap and reliable I dont see buying anything else. I have yet to have a problem with my rifle due to magazine. P-mags are the best.

October 26, 2012, 01:53 PM	#18
Bart Noir Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2000 Location: Puget Sound, USA Posts: 2,215	Kraigwy, I also like the metal 20-rounders. But I notice that you said they were steel. So, since I like to learn things, were the original 1960's 20-round mags made of steel, not aluminum? Bart Noir __________________ Be of good cheer and mindful of your gun muzzle!

October 27, 2012, 07:22 PM	#21
Quentin2 Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2009 Location: NorthWest USA Posts: 1,996	I also stumbled across a cheap H&K LEO only mag a couple years ago. Hardly ever use it now, too heavy plus I like good GI or polymer mags.