Brno 34/08 brazillian

doofus47 · January 24, 2013, 04:41 PM

I was having a debate with my friend.
He said that if a rifle is marked 34/08, it was converted to 30-06 and converted/hardendened to accept that cartridge. His summary: if it's so marked, then it's been changed from it's original cartridge.
I say: the Brazillians might have just refurbed the lot of them and marked them, but left some in the original cartridge depending on who was using them (army vs police or whatnot) and the receiver mark will tell.
Logistically, his view makes sense. I might be wrong.
Do I owe someone a six pack?

Slamfire · January 24, 2013, 05:25 PM

I have a Brazilian Mauser made by CZ and it is Model 1908/34. The original caliber is 7mm Mauser. I have no idea what is going on with other calibers.

Scorch · January 25, 2013, 08:54 PM

Brazilian 08/34 rifles were updated 1908 rifles shortened from the original 1908long configuration. Brazilian military used rifles in 7X57 right up until the armistice that ended the Grand Chaco War, the longest running war in modern history, in 1951. The USA championed the armistice in return for military assistance and diplomatic assistance. One of the things they offered was 30-06 ammunition and weapons left overfrom WW2. Many Brazilain, Argentine, Peruvian, and Bolivian weapons were rebarreled and rechambered to 30-06 in the 1950s as a result.

Rifles not deemed strong enough or not worth the cost to be converted were left in the original configuration. Rifles converted to 30-06 were marked with the designation "30" as in 30-54. Police rifles/carbines are easy to spot as they have no bayonet mounting hardware.

January 24, 2013, 04:41 PM	#1
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	Brno 34/08 brazillian I was having a debate with my friend. He said that if a rifle is marked 34/08, it was converted to 30-06 and converted/hardendened to accept that cartridge. His summary: if it's so marked, then it's been changed from it's original cartridge. I say: the Brazillians might have just refurbed the lot of them and marked them, but left some in the original cartridge depending on who was using them (army vs police or whatnot) and the receiver mark will tell. Logistically, his view makes sense. I might be wrong. Do I owe someone a six pack? __________________ I'm right about the metric system 3/4 of the time.

January 24, 2013, 05:25 PM	#2
Slamfire Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Posts: 5,261	I have a Brazilian Mauser made by CZ and it is Model 1908/34. The original caliber is 7mm Mauser. I have no idea what is going on with other calibers. __________________ If I'm not shooting, I'm reloading.

January 25, 2013, 08:54 PM	#3
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Brazilian 08/34 rifles were updated 1908 rifles shortened from the original 1908long configuration. Brazilian military used rifles in 7X57 right up until the armistice that ended the Grand Chaco War, the longest running war in modern history, in 1951. The USA championed the armistice in return for military assistance and diplomatic assistance. One of the things they offered was 30-06 ammunition and weapons left overfrom WW2. Many Brazilain, Argentine, Peruvian, and Bolivian weapons were rebarreled and rechambered to 30-06 in the 1950s as a result. Rifles not deemed strong enough or not worth the cost to be converted were left in the original configuration. Rifles converted to 30-06 were marked with the designation "30" as in 30-54. Police rifles/carbines are easy to spot as they have no bayonet mounting hardware. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services Last edited by Scorch; January 25, 2013 at 09:01 PM.