Safe?

ZVP · April 4, 2018, 04:23 PM

Are our BP revolvers still safe from regulation ?

**4V50 Gary** · April 4, 2018, 04:41 PM

Fed yes, state no.

Pahoo · April 4, 2018, 06:33 PM

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Are our BP revolvers still safe from regulation ?

Strange as it might seem but there are BP firearms regulation. It varies from state to state and there are some pretty silly regulations that some states are considering. ...

Be Safe !!!

Jim Watson · April 4, 2018, 07:19 PM

Regulated, not much.
Safe, no.

turkeestalker · April 5, 2018, 04:56 AM

For the moment in Missouri.
My oldest picked up one of the 1858 Piettas two weeks back at a local shop.
Paid his money and walked out the door.

On a side note, I like the trend he has taken in his first firearm purchases of his very own. First was a Knight in-line, second was a Thompson Hawken, and now this revolver.
Makes me feel kind of warm and fuzzy.

Ricklin · April 5, 2018, 08:49 AM

Yes, as stated earlier safe from the feds, not from the states.

Oregon for instance defines black powder weapons as a firearm which prevents their possession by felons.
I'm sure Oregon is not the only state that makes that distinction.

And ya know what? I don't have an issue with that. Felons are a prohibited person.

Trum4n1208 · April 5, 2018, 08:53 AM

Did I miss something? I'm not seeing anything in the news regarding BP firearms.

**4V50 Gary** · April 5, 2018, 09:10 AM

Feds don't care. States do. Know your state.

Driftwood Johnson · April 5, 2018, 09:52 AM

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Did I miss something? I'm not seeing anything in the news regarding BP firearms.

Don't say anything.

According to the BATF, Black Powder firearms, either originals or replicas, are not firearms. They follow the rules of antique firearms. I am of course speaking of firearms loaded with loose powder, not cartridges.

It varies from state to state though. A number of years ago some body decided they needed to put a trigger lock on a flintlock hanging in the State House in Boston. I dunno if the trigger lock is still on it. Have not been in the State House in a long time.

Trum4n1208 · April 5, 2018, 10:09 AM

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Don't say anything.

According to the BATF, Black Powder firearms, either originals or replicas, are not firearms. They follow the rules of antique firearms. I am of course speaking of firearms loaded with loose powder, not cartridges.

It varies from state to state though. A number of years ago some body decided they needed to put a trigger lock on a flintlock hanging in the State House in Boston. I dunno if the trigger lock is still on it. Have not been in the State House in a long time.

Ah okay. The topic came up a little bit out of the blue as far as I could tell, so I was just confused. Sorry about that.

Luckily, my state (KY) is pretty good in regards to BP in particular and firearms in general, so I know I'm good there.

Pahoo · April 5, 2018, 10:20 AM

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Oregon for instance defines black powder weapons as a firearm which prevents their possession by felons.
I'm sure Oregon is not the only state that makes that distinction

Not sure abut the feds but in Iowa, we were told that depending on the felon's status, whatever that means, he is not allowed to own any M/L's. Now then, at a recent Hunter Safety instructor's meeting, we were instructed, not to allow a felon to handle any firearms. My instant reaction was; How are we to know if a student is a felon and really not my responsibility to document. ..

Be Safe !!!

Hawg · April 5, 2018, 10:58 AM

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Oregon for instance defines black powder weapons as a firearm which prevents their possession by felons.
I'm sure Oregon is not the only state that makes that distinction.

Mississippi does also.

DD4lifeusmc · April 6, 2018, 10:58 AM

As long as a person did not use a gun in the commission of the crime, and has fully served his time, I see no reason a felon can't own a gun.
Besides his debt to society is supposed to be considered paid in full after he has served his time, and is supposed to have his rights fully restored.
But leave it to the politicians to change the rules.

No our guns are not safe from the anyone. They will change the rules someday.

Ricklin · April 6, 2018, 06:48 PM

Please let's not drift the thread. I became a WA resident a couple years back. Oregon is THE most fouled up state Govt. wise I have ever encountered.

Just like cartridge guns we have to know the state of residence. It's highly variable.

I am not worried about felons access to BP guns.

drobs · April 6, 2018, 11:17 PM

Nothing is safe from the current batch of lib gun banners. These yutes are looking to repeal the 2nd.

If you haven't already please join the NRA or similar organization that is fighting for our 2nd Amendment Rights.

April 4, 2018, 04:23 PM	#1
ZVP Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1,102	Safe? Are our BP revolvers still safe from regulation ?

April 4, 2018, 04:41 PM	#2
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Fed yes, state no. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

April 5, 2018, 04:56 AM	#5
turkeestalker Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2015 Location: Cottleville, Missouri Posts: 1,115	For the moment in Missouri. My oldest picked up one of the 1858 Piettas two weeks back at a local shop. Paid his money and walked out the door. On a side note, I like the trend he has taken in his first firearm purchases of his very own. First was a Knight in-line, second was a Thompson Hawken, and now this revolver. Makes me feel kind of warm and fuzzy. __________________ Vegetarian... primitive word for lousy hunter!

April 5, 2018, 08:49 AM	#6
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,011	States Yes, as stated earlier safe from the feds, not from the states. Oregon for instance defines black powder weapons as a firearm which prevents their possession by felons. I'm sure Oregon is not the only state that makes that distinction. And ya know what? I don't have an issue with that. Felons are a prohibited person. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

April 5, 2018, 09:10 AM	#8
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Feds don't care. States do. Know your state. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

April 4, 2018, 07:19 PM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,534	Regulated, not much. Safe, no.

April 5, 2018, 08:53 AM	#7
Trum4n1208 Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2013 Posts: 173	Did I miss something? I'm not seeing anything in the news regarding BP firearms.

April 6, 2018, 10:58 AM	#13
DD4lifeusmc Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2012 Location: Wyoming Posts: 351	safe? As long as a person did not use a gun in the commission of the crime, and has fully served his time, I see no reason a felon can't own a gun. Besides his debt to society is supposed to be considered paid in full after he has served his time, and is supposed to have his rights fully restored. But leave it to the politicians to change the rules. No our guns are not safe from the anyone. They will change the rules someday.

April 6, 2018, 06:48 PM	#14
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,011	Disagree strongly Please let's not drift the thread. I became a WA resident a couple years back. Oregon is THE most fouled up state Govt. wise I have ever encountered. Just like cartridge guns we have to know the state of residence. It's highly variable. I am not worried about felons access to BP guns. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

April 6, 2018, 11:17 PM	#15
drobs Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2015 Location: South Central MO / Africa Posts: 1,111	Nothing is safe from the current batch of lib gun banners. These yutes are looking to repeal the 2nd. If you haven't already please join the NRA or similar organization that is fighting for our 2nd Amendment Rights. __________________ NRA Life Member

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