Liberty pocket pistol. .22 revolver. Do you have one?

loademwell · September 22, 2019, 09:59 PM

Had a guy drop one off for repair.
It's missing the cylinder rod.
If anyone has one, can you shoot me a pic of it along with dimensions?
Going to have to turn one down on the lathe.

Bill DeShivs · September 22, 2019, 10:42 PM

Need a picture. It's probably a RG.

**Aguila Blanca** · September 22, 2019, 11:10 PM

http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/libert...-remington.htm

FrankenMauser · September 23, 2019, 10:40 AM

Had one here a few years ago. Arrived as a "lunchbox special" - an incomplete pile of parts in an ammo can. "Can you figure out what's missing and make it work again?"

Can't find my photos.
It's a simple pin. Shouldn't be difficult to dimension if you have the rest on hand.

If you dare test fire, use appropriate ammo. They were built for black powder and the one I had here appeared to be mostly cast iron.

Bill DeShivs · September 23, 2019, 10:47 AM

Well, I blew that one!

SGW Gunsmith · September 29, 2019, 11:38 AM

Well, I blew that one!
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Yup, for sure!

Here's a picture of a Liberty .22 revolver made in Germany:

It is a single action revolver though. Does the one you have look close to this one?

Still active here.......Willie.

loademwell · October 5, 2019, 11:51 AM

Yes it does. Exact.

SGW Gunsmith · October 5, 2019, 12:02 PM

Shouldn't be all that hard to make a replacement. The button on the front of the frame, is that spring loaded and able to be pushed in and spring back?

I would then use my calipers to get a rough diameter of the hole for the rod.

Then, do you have a metal lathe?

loademwell · October 5, 2019, 12:41 PM

Yup... Was just trying to make as close as I could to original.
Looks like od is .09. Tough to turn that small. First one broke. Hmmm.. think it's too small,. Might be .19. ugh. Going to have to look again. (Getting old. Mind can't remember what I did 5 min ago).

loademwell · October 5, 2019, 12:46 PM

Is it a straight shaft with one dimple to hold in?

logeorge · October 5, 2019, 06:20 PM

This is a little off subject. About 40 years or so ago a fellow employee brought me a pistol to see if i could get it working. He had bought it from a bum(sorry, i meant homeless person) along with a carton of cigarettes an a carton of chewing gum for $5.00. I looked it up and it was last produced in the late 1890s and sold for 69 cents. It was similar to the one here, but US made. I don't recall the name on it. The cylinder was about the diameter of a quarter and the camber walls were thin and pitted. The cylinder stop leg that works with the hammer cam was broken. I made one out of an old Mauser rear sight spring. I test fired it with BB caps. When he came to pick it up, he scorned the BB caps as too weak. He then proceeded to load the thing up with .22 long rifle high speed ammo and crank off all seven rounds while I was standing well behind him and trying to tell him not to do it! The bloody thing held and he went away happy. I kept expecting to hear about his being injured when it blew, but never did. I don't know if he ever actually fired it again or not. If he did I'm just glad I wasn't anywhere near!

SGW Gunsmith · October 16, 2019, 10:14 AM

If you could find, or order, an O-1 drill rod, 0.0930, or 3/32 diameter, that would be what I'd start with. It's pretty small to try turning to diameter in a lathe, so it would be much easier spinning the rod and working it down in diameter using #320, or #400 emery paper.
Sorry, I can't tell whether that rod in the revolver is straight to one diameter, but I think you are correct about it having a detent to hold it in place.

September 22, 2019, 09:59 PM	#1
loademwell Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 164	Liberty pocket pistol. .22 revolver. Do you have one? Had a guy drop one off for repair. It's missing the cylinder rod. If anyone has one, can you shoot me a pic of it along with dimensions? Going to have to turn one down on the lathe.

September 22, 2019, 10:42 PM	#2
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,980	Need a picture. It's probably a RG. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

September 23, 2019, 10:47 AM	#5
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,980	Well, I blew that one! __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

October 5, 2019, 12:41 PM	#9
loademwell Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 164	Yup... Was just trying to make as close as I could to original. Looks like od is .09. Tough to turn that small. First one broke. Hmmm.. think it's too small,. Might be .19. ugh. Going to have to look again. (Getting old. Mind can't remember what I did 5 min ago). Last edited by loademwell; October 5, 2019 at 01:07 PM.

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September 23, 2019, 10:40 AM	#4
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Had one here a few years ago. Arrived as a "lunchbox special" - an incomplete pile of parts in an ammo can. "Can you figure out what's missing and make it work again?" Can't find my photos. It's a simple pin. Shouldn't be difficult to dimension if you have the rest on hand. If you dare test fire, use appropriate ammo. They were built for black powder and the one I had here appeared to be mostly cast iron. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

September 29, 2019, 11:38 AM	#6
SGW Gunsmith Junior member Join Date: December 31, 2014 Location: Northwest Wisconsin Posts: 285	Well, I blew that one! __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com Yup, for sure! Here's a picture of a Liberty .22 revolver made in Germany: It is a single action revolver though. Does the one you have look close to this one? Still active here.......Willie.

October 5, 2019, 11:51 AM	#7
loademwell Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 164	Yes it does. Exact.

October 5, 2019, 12:02 PM	#8
SGW Gunsmith Junior member Join Date: December 31, 2014 Location: Northwest Wisconsin Posts: 285	Shouldn't be all that hard to make a replacement. The button on the front of the frame, is that spring loaded and able to be pushed in and spring back? I would then use my calipers to get a rough diameter of the hole for the rod. Then, do you have a metal lathe?

October 5, 2019, 12:46 PM	#10
loademwell Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 164	Is it a straight shaft with one dimple to hold in?

October 5, 2019, 06:20 PM	#11
logeorge Member Join Date: December 24, 2007 Location: Ardmore, AL Posts: 68	This is a little off subject. About 40 years or so ago a fellow employee brought me a pistol to see if i could get it working. He had bought it from a bum(sorry, i meant homeless person) along with a carton of cigarettes an a carton of chewing gum for $5.00. I looked it up and it was last produced in the late 1890s and sold for 69 cents. It was similar to the one here, but US made. I don't recall the name on it. The cylinder was about the diameter of a quarter and the camber walls were thin and pitted. The cylinder stop leg that works with the hammer cam was broken. I made one out of an old Mauser rear sight spring. I test fired it with BB caps. When he came to pick it up, he scorned the BB caps as too weak. He then proceeded to load the thing up with .22 long rifle high speed ammo and crank off all seven rounds while I was standing well behind him and trying to tell him not to do it! The bloody thing held and he went away happy. I kept expecting to hear about his being injured when it blew, but never did. I don't know if he ever actually fired it again or not. If he did I'm just glad I wasn't anywhere near!

October 16, 2019, 10:14 AM	#12
SGW Gunsmith Junior member Join Date: December 31, 2014 Location: Northwest Wisconsin Posts: 285	If you could find, or order, an O-1 drill rod, 0.0930, or 3/32 diameter, that would be what I'd start with. It's pretty small to try turning to diameter in a lathe, so it would be much easier spinning the rod and working it down in diameter using #320, or #400 emery paper. Sorry, I can't tell whether that rod in the revolver is straight to one diameter, but I think you are correct about it having a detent to hold it in place.