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April 16, 2018, 09:18 PM | #51 |
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I can understand why people use it, TiteGroup, as it is widely available, reasonably priced and usually to the low end and in many cases a one pound container will many times load twice as much as many other powders.
With small capacity cases such as the 380 and 9mm I just do not feel comfortable loading with it when the spread from start to max is only 0.3gr. Especially because I load with a progressive press and use a volumetric powder measure that can vary as much as .1gr. But we digress. I only hope that fossitms has been able to gain something from this conversation. Many good points made! |
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And it's over fifty posts - that's a heck of a good run for a first-timer!
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April 17, 2018, 11:29 AM | #54 |
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Well let's take a look at those 2 powders from Hodgdons website for a 115gr 9mm load.
Lead Round Nose; Autocomp data, 4.4/5.1gr that is a 8 gr spread Titegroup data, 3.9/4.4gr that is a 5 gr spread Speer Gold Dot; Autocomp, 5.1/5.6gr that is a 6 gr spread Titegroup, 4.5/4.8gr that is a 4 gr spread. Boy with that Gold Dot bullet it sure doesn't give you much room to be off. Any of you all can load that if you like but for me I say No Thank You! Too many other available powders that are much more forgiving. BTW, I use a cheap old Lee Auto Disk that will hold AA#5, Silhouette and HP-38 TO within 0.05gr all day. |
April 17, 2018, 11:34 AM | #55 |
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Your loss. I've shot a lot of it, it can produce great loads even if they are a little dirty.
It is a very popular powder in practical shooting. Often the most popular or the second most popular powders (behind N320), for iron sight loads in USPSA. |
April 17, 2018, 12:00 PM | #56 |
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Don't see how I can loose if I don't buy it. Sorry. I'm sure it's popular for many reasons but just because it's popular doesn't mean I have to use it. Unique is popular also and I don't use tat either.
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And . . . you're not missing out. TG is fast and highly energetic. It's abundant and popular - not sure which is the cause, and which is the effect there. It's also economical - I guess that's important to some loaders. To me, the propellant is the least expensive of the components and thus, isn't hardly a factor. TG is at its best making your basic plated range shooters for most calibers. If you're loading to punch a bunch o' holes in paper at the range, then TiteGroup an ideal propellant. But W231 does everything TG can do, and more. So I've had my 4# run with TG and I made good ammo with it. But I see no need to get any more. Quote:
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Hopefully fossitms is still with us.
I use the Lee Auto Disk for most of my loading so I look for loads that work best in my guns and also fit well with the measure. So far with the HP-38 I have found 2 loads that work very well with the Lee Measure and with both 115gr and 124gr bullets. So all I need to do is insert the correct disk cavity and go to town. With the HP-38 I could get a 3rd load but it would be right at max and I would then have to weigh every charge to feel safe. Next I have found 2 loads using Ramshot Silhouette and both 115gr and 124gr 9mm along with 2 loads that work very well in my 380 using 100gr EXTREME bullets. The AA#5 has been disappointing for both the 9mm and the 380 but has worked very well in our 45acp. Once the AA#5 is gone I have been thinking of trying AA#2 or CFE. |
April 18, 2018, 11:34 AM | #59 |
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Yes, I’m still here. I would like to thank everyone for their insite and experience. ������
I haven’t had a chance to check in the last couple of days. The reason I choose titegroup was the versatility of the powder for the calibers I’m reloading. Being new I wanted to start on the weak side of loads to build my experience. I got all my bullets so far are from Hornady from there rebates. I do have another question for you all. What is your preferred method of measuring the powder? I got a little digital scale with the Hornady kit, but it seems to not keep zeroed all the time. I also bought the Hornady beam scale. Thanks again. |
April 18, 2018, 12:13 PM | #60 |
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For all powder measurements I use a beam scale. I also probably weight check more frequently than is really needed while using a powder measure. Most pistol powders measure out pretty consistently from just about every powder measure. And deffenately when loading to the low or mid ranges where a 0.1gr variation isn't going to effect things much.
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What is everyone’s take on trimming 9mm brass? The books all have different minimums. I know the different lengths can cause a pressure difference.
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I use a Gem Pro scale, it is a reasonably priced scale. I always turn off all fans and the AC when I use it as it is sensitive enough that those will cause it to fluctuate. It actually drove me batty until it was cool enough that I didn't have them on, and I noticed it was rock steady. Trimming 9mm brass, I don't bother. |
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As for W231 being temperature sensitive, I have heard that. But I have not noticed it personally. Over the years, I have run my pet 45 ACP 200LSWC 5.0gn W231 loading over a chronograph countless times. I've done this at all times of the year. Nothing has raised any eyebrows. They run right around 840 f/s every time I check them.
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