Gun Confiscation in America

LevelHead · May 24, 2013, 11:04 PM

After hearing so many people say that, "no one is coming for your guns", I got curious as to how often confiscations have happened, or even how often they are considered by legislatures. I found a lot of people asking the same thing, but found only pieces of information here and there. I decided to do some Internet research and compiled a list of ten items relating to gun confiscations in America. I then took that list and put it into a blog post, which you can read here:

http://www.level-headed.net/2013/05/...on-in-america/

My goal with these posts is to provide verifiable facts and logic without resorting to emotionalism and grandstanding. I encourage you to share them if you find them useful.

Hiker 1 · May 24, 2013, 11:23 PM

The true anti-gunners are firm believers in a utopian New World Order. Private gun ownership has no place in it.

kilimanjaro · May 24, 2013, 11:29 PM

Good post. As to no one coming for our guns, that's what they want you to think while they pass laws to disarm you. Go on a gun-control blog and listen to the folks, they want the guns, all of them, and a not-inconsiderable portion of them believe if you and your family get killed in the process, that's just too bad, can't make the omelet without breaking eggs, you know. Their dystopian dreams are real, and it's not about assault rifles and Saturday night specials, it's about guns, all of them, and the people who have them.

fragtagninja · May 25, 2013, 03:17 AM

Great collection of information man. I will be sure to pass anything I come across your way.

thallub · May 25, 2013, 06:50 AM

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I decided to do some Internet research and compiled a list of ten items relating to gun confiscations in America.

The article failed to mention the case of New Jersey. A 1991 NJ law required the owners of so called "assault weapons" to turn them in to the police, destroy them or remove them from the state. Two friends from NJ brought their Colt ARs to my place in WV for storage.

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Three days after New Jersey's "toughest in the nation" ban on assault weapons took effect, only one person has turned in a firearm to the police.

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Today was the first weekly reporting period since the ban took effect on Friday. It required anyone possessing any of some 60 weapons on a list of banned firearms to sell them outside the state, to turn them in to the police or to certify that the weapons had been rendered inoperable. Anyone failing to comply faces three to five years in prison and a fine of $7,500. Appellate Judge Affirms Ban

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/06/04/ny...y-appeals.html

Koda94 · May 25, 2013, 01:31 PM

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"no one is coming for your guns"

this statement is two-fold. One in the sense of confiscation. The other in the sense of prohibition. Both are valid concerns, but I usually hear it used in the context of prohibition i.e: proposed legislation.... where it is the most deceptive on the most extreme level.

levelhead's article does a good job covering both aspects of the subject. I don't usually bookmark personal blogs but I like knowing examples of of abuse of power. Nice work and keep that blog up!

LevelHead · May 25, 2013, 02:17 PM

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The article failed to mention the case of New Jersey. A 1991 NJ law required the owners of so called "assault weapons" to turn them in to the police, destroy them or remove them from the state. Two friends from NJ brought their Colt ARs to my place in WV for storage.

Thanks - I added a section for this.

maestro pistolero · May 25, 2013, 03:15 PM

A ban, whether the present owner is grandfathered or not, is a ban. If one can't transfer his property, even upon death, then it WILL be confiscated, eventually. I will not be lulled into some false sense of security on that fact.

Kreyzhorse · May 26, 2013, 08:21 AM

Good post. Very informative.

**Spats McGee** · May 26, 2013, 08:22 AM

Good blog post. Thanks for the link.

JimPage · May 26, 2013, 08:34 AM

OP: Don't overlook the recent NY state SAFE act and the resultant cancellation of pistol licenses and confiscation of guns. State police are still doing it. The most publicized one was beaten by the Tresmond legal team.

Dr Big Bird PhD · May 28, 2013, 01:20 PM

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This came up when I clicked on your link LevelHead.

I would really like to go over your information.

LevelHead · May 28, 2013, 02:13 PM

Apologies - had a server issue for about 15-30 minutes today which is now resolved.

Nickel Plated · May 28, 2013, 02:23 PM

The whole "coming for your guns" thing is very misunderstood I belive. The gov't says "We're not coming for your guns" and it's true.
They will not come for your guns. They don't have the time, money or officers willing to get shot to go around door to door to get people's guns. They will simply have you bring the guns to them.
Pass a ban on sonething or other. Sure many will not comply. I suspect most would however. Of those who do not, make a few notable examples. Stiff jail terms. Friends and families tied up with conspir acy and aiding and abbetting charges. That would scare most of the rest into complying.
How many will keep their guns at the risk of 20 years in prison for every offense as well as their families getting dragged into it?
The rest will be much easier to deal with as a smaller group. Especially once you start offering nice rewards for info on anyone possessing an illegal gun (like they do in NY now)

So anyone who's preparing for the day when the cops come to take their guns is frankly gonna be a bit disappointed because that day isn't coming.

Dr Big Bird PhD · May 28, 2013, 07:07 PM

Woah, I did NOT know about my state and the Robert-Roos event.

Big Brother 101 right there

csmsss · May 30, 2013, 08:46 AM

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The whole "coming for your guns" thing is very misunderstood I belive. The gov't says "We're not coming for your guns" and it's true.
They will not come for your guns. They don't have the time, money or officers willing to get shot to go around door to door to get people's guns. They will simply have you bring the guns to them.
Pass a ban on sonething or other. Sure many will not comply. I suspect most would however. Of those who do not, make a few notable examples. Stiff jail terms. Friends and families tied up with conspir acy and aiding and abbetting charges. That would scare most of the rest into complying.
How many will keep their guns at the risk of 20 years in prison for every offense as well as their families getting dragged into it?
The rest will be much easier to deal with as a smaller group. Especially once you start offering nice rewards for info on anyone possessing an illegal gun (like they do in NY now)

So anyone who's preparing for the day when the cops come to take their guns is frankly gonna be a bit disappointed because that day isn't coming.

There may be states where that gambit is successful; however, I can guarantee you that my state of residence (TX) isn't one of them.

mayosligo · May 31, 2013, 06:22 AM

Good post. Thanks.

locnload · June 12, 2013, 10:11 AM

Levelhead, excellent work, I have bookmarked the page for when one of my liberal friends stops by and starts talking about "reasonable gun control" again.
I have no doubt that there are people at the federal level, down to city councils who would pass a law in the dark of night and order law enforcement to commence house to house confiscation in the morning if they thought they could get away with it. I may be naive, but I still have faith that in most jurisdictions, the police upon receiving that order would round up the people that issued it, and put them in jail for treason. I don't know how long that faith will last.
But instead, they will find reasons to pick us apart a few at a time, turn our legal firearms and accessories into contraband. Confiscate your guns because you told a VA doctor that you have flashbacks, or simply drive a few people over the edge of sanity with legalized harassment until they do take criminal action against "the machine" in frustration. None of these vocal tyrants would volunteer to run point in the first raiding party, no, they will sit in safety and order street cops to do it to their neighbors and civilians friends. Now is the time for all law enforcement officers to decide who they serve, and which America they wish to live in.

Method · June 12, 2013, 10:15 PM

Well there you go citing facts, rational argumentation, and logical reasoning.

Excellent article overall.

May 24, 2013, 11:04 PM	#1
LevelHead Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2000 Location: America Posts: 219	Gun Confiscation in America After hearing so many people say that, "no one is coming for your guns", I got curious as to how often confiscations have happened, or even how often they are considered by legislatures. I found a lot of people asking the same thing, but found only pieces of information here and there. I decided to do some Internet research and compiled a list of ten items relating to gun confiscations in America. I then took that list and put it into a blog post, which you can read here: http://www.level-headed.net/2013/05/...on-in-america/ My goal with these posts is to provide verifiable facts and logic without resorting to emotionalism and grandstanding. I encourage you to share them if you find them useful. __________________ "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever." ~ George Orwell, 1984

May 26, 2013, 08:21 AM	#9
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	Good post. Very informative. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

May 26, 2013, 08:22 AM	#10
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	Good blog post. Thanks for the link. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

May 26, 2013, 08:34 AM	#11
JimPage Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2010 Location: Rome, NY Posts: 941	OP: Don't overlook the recent NY state SAFE act and the resultant cancellation of pistol licenses and confiscation of guns. State police are still doing it. The most publicized one was beaten by the Tresmond legal team. __________________ Jim Page Cogito, ergo armatum sum

May 28, 2013, 02:13 PM	#13
LevelHead Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2000 Location: America Posts: 219	Apologies - had a server issue for about 15-30 minutes today which is now resolved. __________________ "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever." ~ George Orwell, 1984

May 24, 2013, 11:23 PM	#2
Hiker 1 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 596	The true anti-gunners are firm believers in a utopian New World Order. Private gun ownership has no place in it.

May 24, 2013, 11:29 PM	#3
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	Good post. As to no one coming for our guns, that's what they want you to think while they pass laws to disarm you. Go on a gun-control blog and listen to the folks, they want the guns, all of them, and a not-inconsiderable portion of them believe if you and your family get killed in the process, that's just too bad, can't make the omelet without breaking eggs, you know. Their dystopian dreams are real, and it's not about assault rifles and Saturday night specials, it's about guns, all of them, and the people who have them.

May 25, 2013, 03:17 AM	#4
fragtagninja Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2013 Posts: 194	Great collection of information man. I will be sure to pass anything I come across your way.

May 25, 2013, 03:15 PM	#8
maestro pistolero Senior Member Join Date: August 16, 2007 Posts: 2,153	A ban, whether the present owner is grandfathered or not, is a ban. If one can't transfer his property, even upon death, then it WILL be confiscated, eventually. I will not be lulled into some false sense of security on that fact.

May 28, 2013, 02:23 PM	#14
Nickel Plated Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NYC Posts: 610	The whole "coming for your guns" thing is very misunderstood I belive. The gov't says "We're not coming for your guns" and it's true. They will not come for your guns. They don't have the time, money or officers willing to get shot to go around door to door to get people's guns. They will simply have you bring the guns to them. Pass a ban on sonething or other. Sure many will not comply. I suspect most would however. Of those who do not, make a few notable examples. Stiff jail terms. Friends and families tied up with conspir acy and aiding and abbetting charges. That would scare most of the rest into complying. How many will keep their guns at the risk of 20 years in prison for every offense as well as their families getting dragged into it? The rest will be much easier to deal with as a smaller group. Especially once you start offering nice rewards for info on anyone possessing an illegal gun (like they do in NY now) So anyone who's preparing for the day when the cops come to take their guns is frankly gonna be a bit disappointed because that day isn't coming.

May 28, 2013, 07:07 PM	#15
Dr Big Bird PhD Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 779	Woah, I did NOT know about my state and the Robert-Roos event. Big Brother 101 right there __________________ I told the new me, "Meet me at the bus station and hold a sign that reads: 'Today is the first day of the rest of your life.'" But the old me met me with a sign that read: "Welcome back." Who you are is not a function of where you are. -Off Minor

May 31, 2013, 06:22 AM	#17
mayosligo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 301	Gun Confiscation in America Good post. Thanks.

June 12, 2013, 10:11 AM	#18
locnload Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2010 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 118	Levelhead, excellent work, I have bookmarked the page for when one of my liberal friends stops by and starts talking about "reasonable gun control" again. I have no doubt that there are people at the federal level, down to city councils who would pass a law in the dark of night and order law enforcement to commence house to house confiscation in the morning if they thought they could get away with it. I may be naive, but I still have faith that in most jurisdictions, the police upon receiving that order would round up the people that issued it, and put them in jail for treason. I don't know how long that faith will last. But instead, they will find reasons to pick us apart a few at a time, turn our legal firearms and accessories into contraband. Confiscate your guns because you told a VA doctor that you have flashbacks, or simply drive a few people over the edge of sanity with legalized harassment until they do take criminal action against "the machine" in frustration. None of these vocal tyrants would volunteer to run point in the first raiding party, no, they will sit in safety and order street cops to do it to their neighbors and civilians friends. Now is the time for all law enforcement officers to decide who they serve, and which America they wish to live in. Last edited by Evan Thomas; June 12, 2013 at 11:01 AM. Reason: let's not call people names.

June 12, 2013, 10:15 PM	#19
Method Member Join Date: July 6, 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 73	Well there you go citing facts, rational argumentation, and logical reasoning. Excellent article overall. __________________ Sig 1911 Tactical / Sig M400 / Browning .22 Buckmark / Ruger 10/22 Carbine / Winchester Select Energy Sporting 12ga / Winchester Model 12 (1959)