Russian Spy Who Attempted to Infiltrate NRA - Page 2

J.G. Terry · February 13, 2019, 09:35 PM

Could this lady be a conduit for dark money into US elections? All this mess has to do with influencing our elections. Sorry, I take offense at these attempts. It is a big deal to see where that buck stops. How many of our institutions are under direct attack by Russia.

Jim567 · February 14, 2019, 08:21 AM

Ugh - I am a sucker for redheads

Hopefully I will never be entrusted with state secrets.

rickyrick · February 14, 2019, 08:57 AM

Yes, let’s see how salaried government employees that hold the position for only a few short years become fantastically wealthy.

Who’s been contacted by Russia here to get you to vote for an issue or politician that you already supported?
The whole Russia thing is a hoax, a farce, a red herring to fool the gullible.
I’m a left leaning moderate that doesn’t even like the current President, nor do I fully support the NRA. I do donate to the NRA from time to time because I do believe in gun rights and the second amendment.

bn12gg · February 14, 2019, 07:54 PM

Lock her up.

.02. David.

Bartholomew Roberts · February 16, 2019, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KyJim

Not to be forgotten is the Butina pled guilty to criminal charges as a foreign agent.

After being denied bail and held in solitary confinement for 96 days. I wonder how many here would take that plea if the worst thing that happened was they would be free to return to the land of their birth? I’d bet more than a few would take it even though they have homes and rights at stake here. Or you can always stay in solitary while our justice system delivers your “speedy trial.”

Erno86 · February 16, 2019, 11:42 AM

It appears that Putin might have just upped the ante in Butina's spy case.

"Russia detains prominent U.S. investor based in Moscow on fraud charges."

"Michael Calvey is a least the third westerner to face adverse action by Russia's justice system in the past two months."

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/15/b...ed-russia.html

**Aguila Blanca** · February 16, 2019, 03:20 PM

Tit for tat.

Of course, the U.S. has never done anything like that.

J.G. Terry · February 16, 2019, 03:36 PM

I suppose all the evidence of Russian hacking into our elections is a hoax?

How about the big wheels going to the slammer related to this Russian hoax. I'd say the Russian RKBA is a hoax of hoaxes. I'd like to see some hard ass real world evidence of a RKBA in the former Soviet Union. What did the Judge say about Mannofort? Is the judge a stooge of the left. Also, a victim of the left is Stone. Gimme a break! Remember, question about the NRA and dark money surfaced before Russia Gate.

**Aguila Blanca** · February 16, 2019, 04:48 PM

Manafort's convictions had nothing to do with the Russian "meddling." They were akin to Al Capone -- tax-related. It remains to be seen what Roger Stone will actually be charged with.

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I suppose all the evidence of Russian hacking into our elections is a hoax?

What evidence?

Bartholomew Roberts · February 16, 2019, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by J.G.Terry

I suppose all the evidence of Russian hacking into our elections is a hoax?

What evidence is there of “Russia hacking into our elections?” Or do you considered buying targeted ads on Facebook to be hacking?

Manafort was convicted of tax evasion that predated his involvement in the Trump campaign and related to his work in the Ukraine.

Stone was indicted on six charges of lying to Congress regarding his contacts with Julian Assange, and one count of obstruction as a result of the lies.

Russian attempts to influence our elections (and vice versa) are not new or unusual; but if we’re going to discuss the links, we should probably stick to a factual basis.

J.G. Terry · February 16, 2019, 07:02 PM

This Russia "Hoax" may very well make Mike Pense President. What income was Mannafort hiding? Lame very lame.

**Aguila Blanca** · February 16, 2019, 08:00 PM

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What evidence is there of “Russia hacking into our elections?” Or do you considered buying targeted ads on Facebook to be hacking?

J.G. Terry, you haven't answered the question.

J.G. Terry · February 16, 2019, 08:40 PM

I'm not sure I follow.

There was no hacking of the DNC? There was no purge of FB due to fake stuff from the former USSR. The interventions/hacking into our state elections were phony.

Are you so-called right wingers nothing but active agents for the Communist worldwide take over? I know where the real cover-up is going on. Thanks Comrade White.

Ms. Butina fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down!

Glenn E. Meyer · February 17, 2019, 12:58 PM

Rather political and really not gun related. Wait for the tabloids and perhaps a centerfold appearance in the American Rifleman (sorry).

Just a PS, though - https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/18/polit...ers/index.html

Looks like Wayne is trying to throw others under the bus.

Closed.

February 13, 2019, 09:35 PM	#26
J.G. Terry Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2014 Posts: 577	Butina Could this lady be a conduit for dark money into US elections? All this mess has to do with influencing our elections. Sorry, I take offense at these attempts. It is a big deal to see where that buck stops. How many of our institutions are under direct attack by Russia. __________________ Intentionally Antagonizing Another MemberInsults and Ad Hominems Last edited by J.G. Terry; February 13, 2019 at 11:04 PM.

February 16, 2019, 11:42 AM	#31
Erno86 Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2012 Location: Marriottsville, Maryland Posts: 1,739	It appears that Putin might have just upped the ante in Butina's spy case. "Russia detains prominent U.S. investor based in Moscow on fraud charges." "Michael Calvey is a least the third westerner to face adverse action by Russia's justice system in the past two months." Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/15/b...ed-russia.html __________________ That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." --- George Orwell

February 16, 2019, 03:36 PM	#33
J.G. Terry Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2014 Posts: 577	Hoax? I suppose all the evidence of Russian hacking into our elections is a hoax? How about the big wheels going to the slammer related to this Russian hoax. I'd say the Russian RKBA is a hoax of hoaxes. I'd like to see some hard ass real world evidence of a RKBA in the former Soviet Union. What did the Judge say about Mannofort? Is the judge a stooge of the left. Also, a victim of the left is Stone. Gimme a break! Remember, question about the NRA and dark money surfaced before Russia Gate. __________________ Intentionally Antagonizing Another MemberInsults and Ad Hominems Last edited by J.G. Terry; February 16, 2019 at 03:37 PM. Reason: SOS+P

February 16, 2019, 07:02 PM	#36
J.G. Terry Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2014 Posts: 577	How did what! This Russia "Hoax" may very well make Mike Pense President. What income was Mannafort hiding? Lame very lame. __________________ Intentionally Antagonizing Another MemberInsults and Ad Hominems

February 16, 2019, 08:40 PM	#38
J.G. Terry Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2014 Posts: 577	What....A Coverup? I'm not sure I follow. There was no hacking of the DNC? There was no purge of FB due to fake stuff from the former USSR. The interventions/hacking into our state elections were phony. Are you so-called right wingers nothing but active agents for the Communist worldwide take over? I know where the real cover-up is going on. Thanks Comrade White. Ms. Butina fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down! __________________ Intentionally Antagonizing Another MemberInsults and Ad Hominems

February 14, 2019, 08:21 AM	#27
Jim567 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2014 Location: NE FL Posts: 656	Ugh - I am a sucker for redheads Hopefully I will never be entrusted with state secrets.

February 14, 2019, 08:57 AM	#28
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	Yes, let’s see how salaried government employees that hold the position for only a few short years become fantastically wealthy. Who’s been contacted by Russia here to get you to vote for an issue or politician that you already supported? The whole Russia thing is a hoax, a farce, a red herring to fool the gullible. I’m a left leaning moderate that doesn’t even like the current President, nor do I fully support the NRA. I do donate to the NRA from time to time because I do believe in gun rights and the second amendment.

February 14, 2019, 07:54 PM	#29
bn12gg Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2011 Location: Winter Park, Florida Posts: 470	Lock her up. .02. David.

February 16, 2019, 03:20 PM	#32
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,459	Tit for tat. Of course, the U.S. has never done anything like that.

February 17, 2019, 12:58 PM	#39
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Rather political and really not gun related. Wait for the tabloids and perhaps a centerfold appearance in the American Rifleman (sorry). Just a PS, though - https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/18/polit...ers/index.html Looks like Wayne is trying to throw others under the bus. Closed. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens