Here's a weird one

Coinneach · July 24, 2000, 01:31 PM

My shop got a repair repo in a couple of weeks ago. I don't know what the original problem was.

The gun sure as hell looks like a Mosin-Nagant, complete with side-swinging bayo. Chamber mark at the muzzle is 7.62x54R, so that fits. The top of the receiver is stamped "1955." However, right above the date stamp are three Japanese characters.

Condition: No finish. Considerable dingss on the metal. Stock is beat all to hell and back. Bore is decent.

Did the Japs arsenal-rework Nagants during the Fifties?

TexasVet · July 24, 2000, 05:51 PM

Just a note, but Japanese and Chinese written characters are the same in most instances. Much more likely to be a Chinese Gun than Japanese.

Harley Nolden · July 25, 2000, 06:50 AM

Coineach:

M1944 Carbine:

CHINA

China made Mosin-Nagant Type 53 carbines. They; are virtually identical with the Soviet 1944g, but were marked 53 on the receiver and often bore the encircled-triangle mark of factory
66.

NORTH KOREA

A poor quality copy of the Soviet 1891/30g rifle was made in the 1950's apparently as the Type 30. It was distinguished by a large encircled five point star, preceding the serial number on the left side of the receiver.
HJN

Coinneach · July 25, 2000, 10:56 AM

The marks are definitely not Chinese.

I'll check the other markings tonight and report back.

Big Bunny · July 25, 2000, 07:23 PM

Definitely a '55 Chicom carbine on M-N'44 lines. The bore is chrome-plated.
It kicks like a mule... but is a good PC wallhanger...not semi-auto see!
Surprisingly accurate... if you can stand the kick and muzzle-blast.
Avoid the AP 7.62mm round(silver tip) in this rifle...it hurts!

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July 24, 2000, 01:31 PM	#1
Coinneach Staff Alumnus Join Date: February 23, 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,272	My shop got a repair repo in a couple of weeks ago. I don't know what the original problem was. The gun sure as hell looks like a Mosin-Nagant, complete with side-swinging bayo. Chamber mark at the muzzle is 7.62x54R, so that fits. The top of the receiver is stamped "1955." However, right above the date stamp are three Japanese characters. Condition: No finish. Considerable dingss on the metal. Stock is beat all to hell and back. Bore is decent. Did the Japs arsenal-rework Nagants during the Fifties?

July 24, 2000, 05:51 PM	#2
TexasVet Senior Member Join Date: July 22, 2000 Location: DeepEastTexas Posts: 1,096	Just a note, but Japanese and Chinese written characters are the same in most instances. Much more likely to be a Chinese Gun than Japanese.

July 25, 2000, 06:50 AM	#3
Harley Nolden Staff In Memoriam Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Brunswick,GA USA Posts: 1,884	Coineach: M1944 Carbine: CHINA China made Mosin-Nagant Type 53 carbines. They; are virtually identical with the Soviet 1944g, but were marked 53 on the receiver and often bore the encircled-triangle mark of factory 66. NORTH KOREA A poor quality copy of the Soviet 1891/30g rifle was made in the 1950's apparently as the Type 30. It was distinguished by a large encircled five point star, preceding the serial number on the left side of the receiver. HJN

July 25, 2000, 10:56 AM	#4
Coinneach Staff Alumnus Join Date: February 23, 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,272	The marks are definitely not Chinese. I'll check the other markings tonight and report back.

July 25, 2000, 07:23 PM	#5
Big Bunny Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 1999 Location: New South Wales - Australia Posts: 605	Definitely a '55 Chicom carbine on M-N'44 lines. The bore is chrome-plated. It kicks like a mule... but is a good PC wallhanger...not semi-auto see! Surprisingly accurate... if you can stand the kick and muzzle-blast. Avoid the AP 7.62mm round(silver tip) in this rifle...it hurts! ------------------ If we shooting sportspersons don't hang together... we will all hang separately ! Never knock another's different shooting interest or discipline...REMEMBER we are all but leaves on the same tree of freedom.