Sidematch pistol?

ZVP · March 12, 2010, 09:20 PM

I have a Harrington and Richardson 1908 .22 RF
I intend to use the little revolver as a Pocket Pistol catagory CAS sidematch gun.
I wonder what was the regular load of .22 RF back at the turn of the 1900's?
I think the .22 short and .22 long were around but they were black powder loads.
I was thinking of using CCI CB Caps in this pistol or perhaps Standard Velocity .22 Shorts (if I can find em?) for my sidematch ammo.
Whatammo would you folks recommend in this little 7 shot pocket gun?
ZVP

arcticap · March 17, 2010, 09:17 AM

I'm not sure but weren't .22lr rounds smokeless by 1908?

http://www.chuckhawks.com/history_rimfire_ammo.htm

Anyway, there are a number .22LR rimfire rounds that have a lower velocity than .22 shorts and won't ring your chambers in the process by firing such short brass cartridges.

Aguila makes 2 different very low velocity .22lr rounds that are known as the Colibri (375 fps) and Super Colibri (500 fps). The Colibri only uses primer material as propellant while the Super Colibi is only loaded with a very little bit of powder, and both have 20 grain bullets.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...equestid=12872

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...m_campaign=653

Next in velocity is the category of .22lr's that are usually always labeled as "subsonic" ammunition. Most ammunition makers offer such a cartridge and the Aguila Subsonic seems to have the lowest published velocities at 950 fps. But in reality anyone would be hard pressed to tell the difference between any of them. The Remington Subsonic is probably the mostly widely distributed and are even available at some well stocked Walmarts. Those are the ones that I would recommend trying unless your revolver has some kind of weakness. I've fired them and they're soft shooting rounds yet still pack enough punch when fired at 50 feet, along with being quite accurate.
I'm also familiar with Aguila Subsonic and despite having very reliable priming and well shaped bullets, for whatever reason some .22lr revolvers just won't be able to get them to fire. So only try a box to see if they'll work in your gun first before buying too many.

http://www.midwayusa.com/Search/#sub..._1-2-4_8-16-32

March 12, 2010, 09:20 PM	#1
ZVP Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1,102	Sidematch pistol? I have a Harrington and Richardson 1908 .22 RF I intend to use the little revolver as a Pocket Pistol catagory CAS sidematch gun. I wonder what was the regular load of .22 RF back at the turn of the 1900's? I think the .22 short and .22 long were around but they were black powder loads. I was thinking of using CCI CB Caps in this pistol or perhaps Standard Velocity .22 Shorts (if I can find em?) for my sidematch ammo. Whatammo would you folks recommend in this little 7 shot pocket gun? ZVP

March 17, 2010, 09:17 AM	#2
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	I'm not sure but weren't .22lr rounds smokeless by 1908? http://www.chuckhawks.com/history_rimfire_ammo.htm Anyway, there are a number .22LR rimfire rounds that have a lower velocity than .22 shorts and won't ring your chambers in the process by firing such short brass cartridges. Aguila makes 2 different very low velocity .22lr rounds that are known as the Colibri (375 fps) and Super Colibri (500 fps). The Colibri only uses primer material as propellant while the Super Colibi is only loaded with a very little bit of powder, and both have 20 grain bullets. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...equestid=12872 http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...m_campaign=653 Next in velocity is the category of .22lr's that are usually always labeled as "subsonic" ammunition. Most ammunition makers offer such a cartridge and the Aguila Subsonic seems to have the lowest published velocities at 950 fps. But in reality anyone would be hard pressed to tell the difference between any of them. The Remington Subsonic is probably the mostly widely distributed and are even available at some well stocked Walmarts. Those are the ones that I would recommend trying unless your revolver has some kind of weakness. I've fired them and they're soft shooting rounds yet still pack enough punch when fired at 50 feet, along with being quite accurate. I'm also familiar with Aguila Subsonic and despite having very reliable priming and well shaped bullets, for whatever reason some .22lr revolvers just won't be able to get them to fire. So only try a box to see if they'll work in your gun first before buying too many. http://www.midwayusa.com/Search/#sub..._1-2-4_8-16-32 Last edited by arcticap; March 17, 2010 at 09:36 AM.