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August 1, 2022, 06:24 PM | #1 |
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Bought a Rock-Ola M1 Carbine with a tapped scope mount
I bought a Rock-Ola M1 Carbine with a tapped scope mount. I'm in the process of putting this back to stock (or as close as possible). Any suggestion would be helpful.
The stock has been cut to fit the mount and the butt plate has been replaced with a Pachmayr rubber one. Appears to be quite old. Left side of the receiver near the bolt has "Bavaria Game Warden" stamped. |
August 1, 2022, 07:29 PM | #2 |
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Other than take off the mount and get a replacement stock i wouldn't do much to it. If you can still see the screw holes you could plug and cold blue them still will be noticeable but would look be IMHO
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M1 Carbine
This brought back childhood memories as this gun was the first centerfire rifle I was taught to shoot.
Good luck on your project.
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@veprdude: Just do what "nodak1858" said. And I would get the replacement stock now, because they will just get harder to find in the future.
There is also an option B: Buy a replacement stock but leave the rifle as is for now. Most will consider this blasphemous, but if you mount a 1x-4x variable scope on it, it should make a handy shooter. Although for the life of me, I can't figure out why someone would install a recoil pad on a 30 carbine. @ammocrafter: My first centerfire rifle was a savage 23D, chambered for .22 hornet. I was 15 at the time and used it for hunting groundhogs. It opened up a whole new world for me. I'm 75 now, but in those days nobody thought it was bad for kids to have guns. Of course, in those days we all had fathers who would skin us alive if we mis-used a gun. Society has changed, but that's another thread for a different forum. Last edited by hammie; August 1, 2022 at 09:06 PM. |
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I would be curious about the "Bavaria Game Warden" marking. A carbine used by an actual Bavarian Game Warden wouldn't be marked that way, in English. My best guess would be the scope base was mounted and the gun marked that way as a marketing name for some large (probably mail order) supply house sometime in the early 60s. but, that's a total guess...
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August 2, 2022, 02:13 AM | #6 |
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What's the best way to go about plugging the holes? File down the bolts flush and loc-tite them in the holes?
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August 2, 2022, 05:34 AM | #7 |
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I found quite a few articles about M1 carbines in Bavaria. If this website is correct, your rifle may be one of 2598 given to Bavarian game wardens.
http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/bavaria.html
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M1 carbines are fun, I'd just take the mount off and enjoy. I don't need it correct to enjoy the pure shooting pleasure these little rifle are. I'm sure you picked it up for a very good price, since it isn't a collector piece.
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Am not a carbine expert, will do some checking, but I think all the original guns were parkerized, so a plum color could very well be from a refinish.
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These carbines were lent to the Germans after WWII to police Germany after the war. The stamping is legitimate. Each area of Germany after the war stamped the carbines with the area in which they were used. I have an Underwood-Elliot-Fisher carbine that was used for that purpose. My is stamped BAVAIAN FORESTRY POLICE. Mine was purchased from the CMP in Aniston Alabama. |
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IF the guns were stamped by the supplying US govt for German use, then English makes sense. It just doesn't make sense, to me, that the Germans would stamp the guns in English, for their own use. Bavaria Game Warden is Bavaria Wildhüter And Bavarian Forestry Police is Forstpolizei Bayern according to my computer's translator. Which is why I suspect the markings on those carbines were done by an English speaker, for German use. Marking them that way, (in either language) means that there is a permanent "trail" if the carbines were ever "repurposed", showing where they came from/had been. I think that if the Americans had marked them and gave them to the Germans, then English might have been used. And, if the Germans marked them for themselves, I think they would have used German, UNLESS one of the conditions from the US to get them required marking in English (so GI's/occupation officials could easily tell who they were supposed to belong to). I don't think it's likely but it is possible and stranger things have been done.
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According to War Baby III, by Larry L Ruth, in 1946 the US military forces issued M-1 carbines to various Bavarian Police organizations.
They were marked in English, with the name of the group they were issued to. To allow US personnel to easily identify them. |
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FWIW, which is exactly what you paid for it, I'd also love to see the "Bavarian Game Warden" marking.
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August 9, 2022, 12:38 AM | #19 |
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Last (5th) pic I posted in the first post. Left of the bolt on the receiver. When I remove the rail, I'm also going to thoroughly clean and lube it. I'll post new pics then.
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Thanks. It's very faint on my monitor, but I see it now.
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