The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > NFA Guns and Gear

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old December 4, 2016, 02:16 AM   #1
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
Shot the monster SBS pistol!

It's a monster! Shooting 2-3/4" shells is actually a little painful. After about 10 rounds, it was time for me to stop.
Recoil is straight back into the hand due to the grip design. The grip is designed to prevent the gun rolling up during recoil- allowing the second barrel to be fired accurately and quickly.
Pattern at 15-20 feet is about 8" with #1 buck, and quite a bit wider with #7-1/2 shot.
It's loud, too!
Ms. Debbie, being the trooper she is, also had a go with it.
I have no desire to shoot 3" magnums in it
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_3933.JPG (176.6 KB, 372 views)
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old December 4, 2016, 02:17 AM   #2
Model12Win
Junior member
 
Join Date: October 20, 2012
Posts: 5,854
Nice! Got any more pictures? That looks like an Ithaca Auto Burglar but in 12 gauge! I bet it's got some nip to it!!
Model12Win is offline  
Old December 4, 2016, 02:18 AM   #3
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
Another view.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_3931.JPG (62.6 KB, 264 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_3930.JPG (87.1 KB, 208 views)
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old December 4, 2016, 02:20 AM   #4
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
No, its a 20 ga. copy of a 1969 COPY of the Ithaca, called the Holland Auto Burglar.
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old December 4, 2016, 04:37 AM   #5
kozak6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 16, 2005
Location: AZ
Posts: 3,113
Now you gotta make a holster for it!

I love seeing that thing. The engraving is a fantastic touch.
kozak6 is offline  
Old December 4, 2016, 09:05 AM   #6
9x19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 15, 1998
Location: Sherman, TX USA
Posts: 3,750
So you didn't try both triggers at once?

You knew it was gonna be a beast, but it's a really nice looking beast!
__________________
Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!
9x19 is online now  
Old December 4, 2016, 04:00 PM   #7
ATN082268
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 2, 2013
Posts: 975
You need to load each barrel with 3 inch magnum slugs and fire both barrels at the same time. That's the only way to know if you are Mad Max material
ATN082268 is offline  
Old December 4, 2016, 04:13 PM   #8
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
I have a holster. Here's a picture.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_3935.JPG (58.8 KB, 191 views)
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old December 4, 2016, 04:20 PM   #9
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
I still have to install a sling swivel on the butt, so the gun can be hung over the shoulder.

The engraving was done to cover awful factory stamped engraving.
I still might pimp it up a little more- maybe a small gold shield inlayed in the back of the pistol grip?

I knew the recoil would be bad, so when I made the grip I drilled it from the bottom and installed steel rods-epoxied into either side of the grip. This should keep the grip from breaking at the weakest point. While I doubt recoil would break it, dropping the gun sure could without the rods.

Though I never have done any "real" stock work on long guns- other than refinishing and tinkering, I took my time on this grip. I had the slab of walnut for more than 30 years in case I ever decided to do this. The pistol grip is actually bedded with epoxy for fit, as movement could eventually destroy it.

In my twenties, I did make one other pistol grip- for a Stevens pump 20 ga. that I made a "whippet" gun out of. This was long before the Mossberg "Cruiser" type guns were available. But fitting a grip to a pump is nothing like stocking a double.
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com

Last edited by Bill DeShivs; December 4, 2016 at 04:26 PM.
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old December 4, 2016, 04:34 PM   #10
smee78
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 14, 2008
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 2,918
That is a cool looking build, thanks for sharing it with us.
__________________
We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are
smee78 is offline  
Old December 4, 2016, 04:36 PM   #11
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
You know, I still have the choke tubes..........
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old December 6, 2016, 11:00 PM   #12
Chainsaw.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 12, 2015
Location: Issaquah WA. Its a dry rain.
Posts: 1,774
Good golly that grip looks painful!!
__________________
Just shoot the damn thing.
Chainsaw. is offline  
Old December 6, 2016, 11:26 PM   #13
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
The grip isn't painful.
The design keeps the gun from sliding back into the hand- which can cause the web of the hand to get stuck under the opening lever. THAT'S painful!
The gun can also be fired from eye level, without hitting you in the head. THAT'S painful, too.
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old December 7, 2016, 02:10 AM   #14
shootniron
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 16, 2011
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,599
WHERE is the video?
shootniron is offline  
Old December 7, 2016, 03:08 PM   #15
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
No video. Maybe next time.
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old December 8, 2016, 05:45 AM   #16
Willie Lowman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 5, 2009
Location: Uh-Hi-O
Posts: 3,006
Nice looking gun, Bill!
__________________
"9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens
Willie Lowman is offline  
Old December 8, 2016, 06:09 AM   #17
shootbrownelk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 27, 2013
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 329
Great looking gun, it has "Home Defense" written all over it. One look at that would make the baddest of the bad paint his shorts brown!
shootbrownelk is offline  
Old December 8, 2016, 07:37 PM   #18
agtman
Junior member
 
Join Date: July 26, 2001
Location: midwest
Posts: 2,374
They're not that painful to shoot, trust me.

20ga SBS - 8" barrels.


In fact, these little blasters are highly effective on scags and other Wasteland trash.



agtman is offline  
Old December 9, 2016, 12:06 AM   #19
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
Nice gun!
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old December 9, 2016, 08:48 AM   #20
jaguarxk120
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 28, 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2,618
Nice and handy , just the right size when the tiger is clawing his way up the side of your elephant.

Draw put the muzzles against the tigers forehead and pull both triggers.
jaguarxk120 is offline  
Old December 10, 2016, 11:11 AM   #21
Deja vu
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 14, 2010
Location: Border of Idaho & Montana
Posts: 2,584
How long is the barrel? That is awesome! I put removable choke tubes in mine and have been able to use it for hunting (with a shoulder stock attached of course)

The choke tubes work even in a short barrel! The velocity loss is small as well I went from 18.5 inches to 10 inches and lost less than 100 FPS! The pattern is very similar as well. The only down side is its much louder!

A SBS is a great gun. They do "whip" alot more than a skeet gun but with practice it can do any thing a longer gun can do.



12ga 2 3/4inch only. Holds 3 in the tube, 1 in the reciever and 1 in the chamber. So 5 rounds in a 10 inch barrel shot gun. I have Cylinder, Skeet, Modified and Full choke tubes for it.
__________________
Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull.

all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...
Deja vu is offline  
Old December 10, 2016, 03:56 PM   #22
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
Mine has 10 inch barrels.
I don't hunt, so there really is no need for the choke tubes-except as an exercise in excess.
My gun looks really strange with the shoulder stock, but it's a cool option to have.
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old July 12, 2017, 01:14 AM   #23
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 10,967
Ms. Debbie and I shot the SBS with reduced recoil loads tonight.
It's a pussycat with these- but they are #8 shot.
__________________
Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old July 21, 2017, 05:11 PM   #24
taymag
Member
 
Join Date: June 27, 2015
Posts: 79
Waiting on a 12ga sxs myself. Speaking of Ithaca, I've always wanted an Ithaca mag10 sbs
taymag is offline  
Old July 22, 2017, 03:35 PM   #25
Venom1956
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 4, 2008
Location: WI
Posts: 3,656
Have u tracked down any mini agulia shells
__________________
E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that.
I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug
Venom1956 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.06915 seconds with 9 queries