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Old October 10, 2021, 05:09 AM   #51
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That being said, I've also read that 9mm 1911s just aren't as reliable as those chambered in .45 ACP in general, although there are exceptions.
In my experience, it's the opposite. Gunsmiths have said the slight taper to the 9mm cartridge helps feeding. I have a couple of lightweight Commanders in 9mm, and they're not at all finicky about ammo.
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Old October 10, 2021, 05:51 AM   #52
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I'm not a 1911 collector and there are lots of other guns that need to be shot but i have had eight 1911s in .45 over time and two in 9mm. I did not think the first 9mm did anything particularly special, so I sold it. It didn't take long to realize a 9mm 1911 is simply a fun gun and I bought another one. A 1911 in .45 is also a hugely fun gun, but in a different way from the 9mm.
1911's in .38 Super are "funner" still. And, the mags do not have that goofy spacer in the back.

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Old October 12, 2021, 05:04 PM   #53
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I agree with your feeding comment, Tom Servo. Though I've never had much of a problem with either.

Nice piece, Dahermit. Can't tell, alloy or steel framed? I've built up two over the years: one a Combat Commander .45 that I fitted (minimally) a .38 Super & 9mm Luger Colt slide/bbl. to. The 2nd is still with me: a Ruger CMD in .45 that is dimensionally identical to my previous Colt. Both fed and fired 9mm & .38 Super with only a changed ejector being necessary. BTW, the .38/9mm ejector works just fine with the original .45 bbl./slide. Of the three, the .38 is the most accurate, and too, it's POI is within 1" of the 9mm POI at 15 yds. Pic of the Ruger/Colt .38 Super. IIRC, those two slide/bbl's, (9mm & .38 Super) cost me ~$100 back in the late 80's from ads in the Shotgun News!

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It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to buy a 9 round mag capacity 9mm 1911 when 17-21 round mag capacity is available in smaller, lighter guns designed around 9mm.
That's my thought as well. I'm a .45 ACP advocate, but do own a Series 70 Colt 1911 as well. It's a heavy gun for the cartridge but very pleasant to shoot...but again, limited in capacity if that makes a difference. An alloy frame Commander (the original Colt offering), does cut the weight, but again, it comes down to capacity...and that rings many modern shooter's bell.

I also have an all steel Commander in .38 Super, which makes more sense from my perspective...very high speed (1300 fps with a 124 gr bullet is no problem and doesn't stress the gun), and in my example, superb accuracy (sub 2" groups at 25 yds from a sitting position).

In my use, I reload only nickeled .38 Super cases...as they're flipped 7 ways from Sunday during ejection and the silver case is easier to find than brass in the long grass range. All in all, the Super's a better round than the 9mm Luger, more versatile. BTW, for those of you interested, .38 Super 1911 magazines will feed 9mm just as well, but not the reverse. And a .38 Super bbl. will (in most instances, a drop-in fit), will turn your ho-hum 9mm into a .38 Super tiger! YMMv, Rod

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Old October 13, 2021, 11:08 AM   #54
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This is at the top of my handgun wish list. Yes, in 9mm.
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Old October 13, 2021, 09:15 PM   #55
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Chadio,

My buddy has a Colt that looks identical to that, chambered in 45. It shoots wonderfully! I too am looking for a Colt but have had no luck finding the one I am after in stock anywhere. Hence my start of this thread. I understand CZ now owns Colt, as well as Dan Wesson. I have heard the Dan Wesson 1911's now being produced by CZ are still very good quality, hopefully that remains true when they begin pumping out the Colt products.
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Old October 14, 2021, 08:33 AM   #56
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This is at the top of my handgun wish list. Yes, in 9mm.
I just bought one, but mine is .38 Super.
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Old October 14, 2021, 09:06 AM   #57
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I could never see the reasoning in 1911 in 9mm. If you are going to carry a gun that big why not 45? I also could never figure out why 38Super never caught on. I always wanted a GC in 38Super. I had a Spanish knock off of 1911 in 9mm Largo. I only had $50 in it so I put sights on it. I used 38Super brass that I thinned rims and loaded at 38Super levels. Gun shot very well. Traded it off. Now they want $350 -$400 for those Spanish Stars in 9 Largo.
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Old October 14, 2021, 01:37 PM   #58
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I’ve never shot a 9mm Beretta 92 but being that I’ve heard a lot of people say it’s a very nice and smooth shooting pistol for being that small of cartridge in an all stainless steel handgun that I would assume that a full-size 1911 chambered in 9 mm would be about the same experience.


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Old October 15, 2021, 12:22 PM   #59
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Nice piece, Dahermit. Can't tell, alloy or steel framed?
"Commander" indicates an Aluminum alloy frame. "Combat Commander", indicates a steel frame.

The .38 FrankenColt is a "Combat" (steel) Commander.
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Old October 18, 2021, 08:20 PM   #60
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> I recall the Colonel describing (paraphrasing) the 1911 [govt] as a large battle pistol

A steel 1911 is heavy, but by modern standards, it's only average-sized, particularly if you're figuring width as well as outline. With a Commander-length barrel, it compares favorably in size against newer "concealed carry" designs.
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Old October 20, 2021, 07:01 PM   #61
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I have had an STI Trojan in 9mm for almost 20 years. I bought it from Dawson precision and Dave did his famous trigger job in it. I have used it to teach young folks how to shoot a full size auto. Recoil is very light with my reloads and a 9 pound spring. When it's time for my journey to the great range in the sky, the gun will be in good hands.
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