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Old December 5, 2015, 09:17 PM   #1
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How can a handgun compete with a man armed with a rifle?

Well I found the video from Youtube:
https://youtu.be/rx8xmi4j13Y

Whoever asks this question doesnt know pistols very well.
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Old December 6, 2015, 11:04 AM   #2
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There's plenty of accounts of a defender with a handgun defeating a shooter with a rifle.
One that comes to mind, was a military policeman with his service 9mm handgun stopping an "active shooter" armed with a rifle from a distance of 75 yards.
The incident took place at a base hospital in the northwest a few years ago.
Another one that earned publicity was the fellow in the trailer part who stopped a rifleman with a handgun shot from a reputed 65 yards, if memory serves.
It might pay us all to practice longer shots when we go to the range.
And there's no forgetting Wild Bill Hickok's famous 75 yard cap and ball revolver shot that won the duel with a poker pal.
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Old December 6, 2015, 11:15 AM   #3
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Don't mess with Texas

Austin Texas PD cop dropped a shooter who was shooting up downtown with an AK last year. With his duty handgun he shot 104 yards *while holding 2 horses* with his other hand. 1 shot.
Don't mess with Texas.

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Old December 6, 2015, 11:59 AM   #4
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We had a guy in the office some years back, Korean War veteran. He was a witness to a Marine dropping three Chinese soldiers with three shots from a 1911 at over 100 yards as the Marines got on trucks to get out of Chosin.

It could have been eight shots, but that was the story and no one doubted it.
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Old December 6, 2015, 01:02 PM   #5
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Yes, it's possible.

However, while the race does not always go to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, that's the way to bet.
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Old December 6, 2015, 01:06 PM   #6
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/05/us/tex...shooting-hero/
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(CNN)—It wasn't a fair fight.

On one side, you had two men in body armor, toting assault rifles and showing every willingness to open fire now and count their victims later. On the other, you had a security officer -- a traffic officer by day -- with a pistol.
This past May...
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Old December 6, 2015, 01:17 PM   #7
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David the shepherd boy from Israel killed a giant warrior of Philistine named Goliath with just a sling shot. Sometimes it's the size of the fight in the person holding the weapon, not the size of the weapon.
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Old December 6, 2015, 01:26 PM   #8
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Whoever asks this question doesnt know pistols very well.
If that was the case they would just arm the armed forces with handguns , no need for rifles. Also handgun ammo is much less effective than rifle ammo. I did enjoy the video.
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Old December 6, 2015, 01:56 PM   #9
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"...a defender with a handgun defeating a shooter with a rifle..." Said defender got extremely lucky.
Hickok was an extremely good shot with a handgun and lucky. At least until he turned his back to the wrong guy. In any case, all the anecdotal evidence on the planet will not change the fact that a rifle beats handgun 9 times out of 10.
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Old December 6, 2015, 03:07 PM   #10
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we routinely shoot 50 yards with handguns mostly 45 acp and 357 mag. But that is range shooting not against an armed attacker.
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Old December 6, 2015, 03:24 PM   #11
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buck460XVR: As I recall the story, David had some pretty powerful back up. Not something the average guy has in his back pocket.
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Old December 6, 2015, 04:32 PM   #12
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If the shooter has his back to you, which is highly likely if there are a couple of shooters and many innocence, several round in his back would suffice. And he'd never see it coming.
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Old December 6, 2015, 05:10 PM   #13
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All thing being equal, the rifleman has the advantage but rarely are all things equal. Circumstance is a big factor and so are tactics.
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Old December 6, 2015, 05:38 PM   #14
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[QUOTE]David the shepherd boy from Israel killed a giant warrior of Philistine named Goliath with just a sling shot. Sometimes it's the size of the fight in the person holding the weapon, not the size of the weapon. QUOTE]

Buck460, actually David didn't kill Goliath with the sling he just knocked him silly and to his knees. David then ran up grabbed Goliath's big ol' sword and cut his head off. Either way David had more than a little luck on his side that day!!! I bet if you gave David a choice between a 1911 or the sling he would choose the 1911.
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Old December 6, 2015, 05:38 PM   #15
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At the risk of being a "broken record"
I say again, it's 98% the man and 2% what he's shooting.

Some Confederat calvery units in our Civil War used only revolvers against rifles in their raids.

Alvin York used a stock 1911 to kill 7 charging German rifle men.

John Basilone used a 1911 to kill 5 Japanese soldiers in the battle that earned him the Medal of honor when he had nothing else to use for some minutes.

Japanese American soldier Hiroshi Miyamura also was down to his 1911 for some time in the battle in which he also earned the Medal of Honor during the Korean war.

Joseph Kiteman use a pistol and killed 9 charging enemies when his unit was overrun by AK47 wielding terrorists, (most of which were shooting at him personally,) in Rhodesia in 1977 and escaped being surrounded by dozens more.

ALWAYS use a rifle or shotgun if you can, but if you can't, use what you have and use it well.
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Old December 6, 2015, 11:15 PM   #16
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Absolutely a true story. An ancestor of mine was awarded the medal of honor during the civil war. However, he used a cannon
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Old December 7, 2015, 09:27 AM   #17
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How can a handgun compete with a man armed with a rifle?

Surprise and violence of action.
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Old December 7, 2015, 09:41 AM   #18
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Everyone in combat wants a rifle over a pistol, funny how that works.
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Old December 7, 2015, 10:16 AM   #19
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Google "Jeanne Assam".
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Old December 7, 2015, 10:26 AM   #20
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Most self defense shootings do not involve two people standing in plain site shooting across an open field at one another. In some scenarios, the pistol can be an advantage. If faced with a rifle weilding attacker, try to change it to one of those scenarios.
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Old December 7, 2015, 12:15 PM   #21
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Well I found the video from Youtube ...
I fail to see how the video is in any way relevant to the question posed.
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Old December 8, 2015, 07:31 AM   #22
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Being armed with a rifle certainly has it's advantages in combat, however, being bullet proof isn't one of them.

Being the first one to land your shots will go a long way towards winning the fight.


And as kraigwy said, surprise and violence of action will certainly help to swing the moment into your favor.
-Don't give warnings
-Don't expose yourself as armed until the last possible moment
-Don't stop at one or two shots, shoot him down and end the altercation
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Old December 8, 2015, 08:10 AM   #23
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Skill, cunning, and treachery count a lot in battle.
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Old December 9, 2015, 02:26 AM   #24
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In the 1850s Texas rangers in fights with Apaches used Colt Walker revolvers at ranges up to 600 yards.

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Old December 9, 2015, 11:19 AM   #25
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Out near Rock Springs, we were plinking at some Clay pigeons at 100 yards. So I tried my 10/22 with iron sights. All around it - bah. Frustrated, I unholstered a Glock 26 - bang and it smoked. I found that I could hit a man sized target at 200 yards with a touch of practice with a Glock.
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