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August 23, 2012, 10:45 PM | #26 |
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How much was it?
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August 23, 2012, 10:52 PM | #27 |
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If you want a metal based finish, then maybe look into hard chrome. It's a plating process similar to the nickle already on the gun, but it's much more durable. It can also be had in various degrees of shininess, from a matte dull finish to a polished mirror like look.
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However I want to lean more towards parkerized. Think that's why I'm thinking about blueing. SIG 1911 XO / SA 1911 custom / Colt Gold Cup / SIG P226 e2 / Browning High-power / Walther PPQ / Beretta PX4 Storm / G34 / G19 / G21 / G22 / Kahr CW9 / S&W M-19 / Hk USP 40 / Rem 870 / Rock R. AR-15 sent from my Android |
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August 23, 2012, 11:27 PM | #29 |
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Nice find! Why not get it refinished in satin nickel?
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Satin nickel? I'll Google that right now actually. Don't know about that. Oooooh. I gotta contact "Hunter Customs" he's the only 1911 guru I trust with my 1911's maybe he can do that for me
Let me google that now. Satin Nickel. SIG 1911 XO / SA 1911 custom / Colt Gold Cup / SIG P226 e2 / Browning High-power / Walther PPQ / Beretta PX4 Storm / G34 / G19 / G21 / G22 / Kahr CW9 / S&W M-19 / Hk USP 40 / Rem 870 / Rock R. AR-15 sent from my Android |
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It looks the same as what it has now. I don't know...I really want this different. If I'm going to refinish it might as well go all out.
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August 23, 2012, 11:43 PM | #32 |
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I think its a buy for that money. What is there left to think about?
Go see what series 70 guns bring on the internet. Some would say those prices are high BUT anyone can sell on the net, and as long as you know how to sell, you can get the same money because the market is there. People want series 70 guns. Just think your gun model name signature list will be one firearm longer after this purchase. Despite the modifications and wear, I think for about $600, you're plenty safe as far the value is concerned. I know I'd rather have this gun than a brand new $700 1911 and so would a lot of other guys.
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I would say get it blued. A blued 1911 is the best looking semi auto gun around, in my opinion anyways.
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Constantine - I own a satin nickel Series 70 Combat Commander that I bought new in 1972 or 73. None, zero, of the exposed parts were blued, not the trigger, nada. In your OP you mentioned stainless, but the finish looks like nickel and the conversation has drifted toward that. Satin nickel guns of that series did not come with blued triggers, to my knowledge. Even though the sights and grip safety (and obviously the Pachmayer grips) may well have been after-market improvements, it seems odd to me that the trigger would have been changed out for one that from the photo appears equally non-adjustable, a la a Gold Cup's. I had mine tuned for competition (Peterson's in Mount Dora) and they never suggested changing out the trigger.
Have you checked a serial number source to be sure you aren't looking at a "continuation series" model that began in 2002-05? My gun's SN is 70SC33xxx, FWIW. Not saying you don't have a good buy there, but the gun you are looking at either has been tweaked a lot (possibly to your advantage) or maybe it is not a Series 70 from the 1970s. Also, have you dropped the firing pin retainer to see if the number jives with the SN on the gun? |
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The SN shown by Constantine in the photo he provided of 70B31528 (to my eye) would be a 1982 or 1983 production per online sources quoting RL Wilson. We do know that the "70B" prefix started in 1981. We also know that later in 1983 the Series 80 guns came out, with a changed prefix / suffix for the SN. His gun appears to be a true blue series 70 AFAIK.
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Saw the pics, Constantine....the exterior looks ok to me and better than what I'd imagined from your original post. As to satin nickle as a finish...I've had two Colts finished that way, and they're about as close to stainless steel in corrosion resistance as you can find in a stock factory finish. Canoe trips in wet weather a week at a time, four days in a wet leather holster with no adverse freckling...that satin nickle has held up to ordinary holster wear too.
Gotta ask tho, did you go through the basic safety/functionality checks when you checked it out? When parts are changed out, some of the following sometimes get overlooked. These are the basic checks I make with my 1911's every time I use them...and I do the same with friend's guns when they come over to shoot. 1. Hammer won't fall if grip safety alone is depressed, with thumb safety engaged & trigger is pulled. If all those are OK, I'd buy it and get to work on what ever level of restoration I'd be interested in. Best Regards, Rod
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Winchester_73 - I agree 100%
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It's a 70 series, lol don't worry. Thank you though! Winchester_73 - Quote:
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What he said ^^^^ lol Thanks. rodfac - Quote:
I may or may not redo it in satin nickel. Really depends on the parts I add onto it. If it needs cutting and what not. I may just do it. That's why I refinished the SA one, cause of the Ed Brown beaver tail being .250 as opposed to .220 I think.. As for the checks, OF COURSE!!! 1. Hammer won't fall if grip safety alone is depressed, with thumb safety engaged & trigger is pulled. ----- did this. A ok. 2. Hammer won't fall with thumb safety off, and grip safety not depressed, while trigger is pulled. ----- A ok! 3. Hammer won't fall if both safeties are depressed, when slide is released with trigger pressed. ----- A ok!! 4. Hammer won't fall if slide is slightly retracted, when trigger is pulled. ----- darn..I gotta do that one. 5. Magazine lips in good condition? ----- Yes indeed. 6. Half-cock notch on hammer works? ----- gotta do that one too. 7. Any slide/frame battering down where the recoil spring guide seats against the frame? ----- ugh -__- 8. Slide/frame rail condition...from shade tree gunsmith "tightening"? ----- Well...it's loose like a typical Colt. But nothing crazy. |
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My vote would be for a nice parkerized finished.
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If it is ok shape, no rust etc, step on it! A COLT SERIES 70 is the yardstick for 1911s! You don't want it, tell ME where it is. A Glock can come later, always be plenty around, not so a COLT SERIES 70.
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Just called Colt..they said 1982
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Just thought of something.. Had an old pre-70 1911 which had looked pretty bad.. someone cleaned it up and then HARD CHROMED it... basically industrial-strength finish. IIRC these days there are a variety of chrome finishes out there, including dull or polished black/blue. I know it's very tuff... tougher IME than the electroless nickle Colt finish on my 70 Combat Commander. Might want to look into something like that. Good luck! Dun
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I think a good bright blue is the best looking 1911 finish but you are going to carry it often so I would probably go with something more durable. I think you would have a beautiful, practically new gun with a good NP3 finish.
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leave it as is and carry it use it enjoy it shoot it and don't give a damn!
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NP3 and Hard chrome..
Idk. Might just do what Winchester_73 said. Actually my original plan. However! That grip safety is really uncomfortable :/ SIG 1911 XO / SA 1911 custom / Colt Gold Cup / SIG P226 e2 / Browning High-power / Walther PPQ / Beretta PX4 Storm / G34 / G19 / G21 / G22 / Kahr CW9 / S&W M-19 / Hk USP 40 / Rem 870 / Rock R. AR-15 sent from my Android |
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UPDATE: Just messaged and emailed a forum member here that does work on 1911's and the only person I'd trust with it. Gonna see what finish he recommends
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Congrats Constantine. A standard 1911a1 45 is actually missing from my collection. I just never got one yet. Since there are so many, I want a good price, and thats what you got, a good gun for a good price. Enjoy it.
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Today is the day I pick her up. Took 100rds with me to work cause I'll be going right after. Range/Gun stores are so awesome.
Meet you all back here around 7:30/8 with pics and such. |
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