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Old January 21, 2015, 01:26 PM   #1
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Does anyone reload Nosler Accubonds for 30-06 ?

Are your loads close to their most accurate loads and do you use them on whitetail ?
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Old January 21, 2015, 01:41 PM   #2
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Hi. Accubond is just a marketing name for a type of bullet.
Their(Nosler) most accurate load is out of the test rifle/universal receiver with that 24" Lilja barrel on the day of the tests. Won't necessarily be the most accurate out of your rifle.
No, I don't use 'em. I'd have to sell an organ to use anything from Nosler. Wouldn't think twice about using any 165 grain hunting bullet for deer though. The .30-06(and .308) loves that weight. IMR4064 is your friend.
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Old January 21, 2015, 01:46 PM   #3
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The saying goes, every gun is a law unto itself. You have to experiment to find what it likes best. Most 30-06 and 308 Wins like the 168 grain Sierra MatchKing, but that's about as close to universal as you get with accuracy, and Sierra doesn't recommend that bullet for hunting.
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Old January 21, 2015, 02:21 PM   #4
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I have about 5K of these S/Base bullets in .270/7mm/.308

I've loaded thousands of 308/caliber 165gr Nosler Solid base (Lead tip Boat tail) & 165gr Partitions which are essentially a flat base bullet, frankly I cannot tell the difference between the two. It seems the group may move a tiny bit but other than that I shoot them interchangeably. I have always preferred these bullets because of accuracy and terminal performance!! Outstanding bullets plus I bought them when they were cheap compared to today's prices.. I would expect the Accubond performance to be similar to the solid base bullets. I do not like the Ballistic tip they are too explosive without the penetration I require of a hunting bullet. William

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Old January 21, 2015, 02:42 PM   #5
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My friends and I have shot numerous blacktail (does that count?), as well as over twenty moose with the 7mm 160 grain Accubond. They have always performed well. Admittedly they are more bullet than you need to kill a whitetail. However if you are going for something larger, the 165 grain or 180 grain Accubond in the 30-06 is enough for elk or moose.
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Old January 21, 2015, 04:06 PM   #6
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What cases are you guys using for accubond ?
Are you using the new edition manual ?
Are you any where close to their data ?

This is all new to me , I'm wanting to have some in sight before I make decisions.

Thanks for all the replies !!!!!
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Old January 21, 2015, 05:04 PM   #7
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06,
I use their manual in conjunction with others before I start a new load.
Sometimes its pretty close to their data. But, It’s a craps-shoot, Keep good notes and always work up look'en for signs of excessive pressure.

For brass, Lapua, Winchester and Lake City (LC) are among my favorites.. HTH
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Old January 22, 2015, 07:16 AM   #8
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I load that 165 grain Accubond, and testing finds that out of my 24"1-10" twist remington 700, the Accubond hits the same POI as Btips in same weight and same powder charge which my rifle like 55.6 grains IMR4350. .010 off lands it'll shoot ten into a quarter sized hole and 100 yds which I think is decent enough to hunt with...not sure on velocity yet, still too cold here to set it up at range....

Mixed range brass by the way is what I feed my rifle....its cheap!!!!
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Old January 22, 2015, 10:11 AM   #9
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Thank you for that info.
I noticed the factory ABs and BTs have a cannelure for crimping.
What about the ones you buy to reload ?

I looked at noslers load data on line and it looks like your middle of the road.

What primers do you use ?

I think I will go with nosler cases since the prep is already done , until I have a better understanding because there are too many variables with cases.

Did you seat yours at the 3.320 coal ?
Did that give you your .010" ?
I measured a factory round and it was under that.

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Old January 22, 2015, 10:22 AM   #10
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No cannelure.
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Old January 22, 2015, 10:36 AM   #11
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My son's 7mm08 will do pretty much the same with 140s and 120 gr. with factory.
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Old January 22, 2015, 12:18 PM   #12
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06 shooter:
Relax a little bit.Not too much,but a little bit.
I suggest you buy Nosler's loading manual.Its a good one,one of my "go to" manuals.

Much better than asking here "What is a good primer?" Just try to use the primer they develop the load with.
That would apply to all components.
There is nothing wrong with using premium brass.It does cost $.I generally buy a large qty (500 will last a long time)of plain old Winchester brass.But that's me.

One thing I like about the Nosler series,I can use the 168 Custom Comp shooting targets,the 165 Ballistic tip on light/medium body game and the Accubond when I need a tougher bullet.

I have found,for me,they shoot real close to the same spot on the target,so generally you stay sighted in (at least very close).

I'll agree 4064 is a good powder,but so are the 4350's and RE-19 in a bolt rifle with 165 gr bullets.

Your 30-06 with 165 gr bullets is a great choice.It will do pretty much everything.The Nosler bullets are a great choice.I use them.My suggestion is,you do not need to use the premium bonded bullet(Accubond) ,and spend more,till you are taking larger game,like elk.The standard Ballistic Tip will work fine on a whitetail.

Check the price on the Custom Comps.They work great on paper,rocks,cans,etc.A lot cheaper than Accubonds.

I have found all of these bullets deliver accuracy.(The bullet is but one part)

I do encourage your pursuit of Quality in your process.Strive to make excellent ammo.You do not always have to use the most expensive component to get excellent results.

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Old January 22, 2015, 01:07 PM   #13
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Thanks HiBC, I agree .
I've seen bts soft points and bonded in action , I like the swift sciroccos for 3006 150 gr , they are bonded and I was impressed when I took a small doe @80 yards in the mid shoulder, ( huge exit )

I need a blood trail and all my shots are taken at last light.

I like Nosler to !

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Old January 22, 2015, 01:21 PM   #14
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I have been using the 165gr accubonds myself in one of my 30-06s and in my m1 garands for hunting loads. I have also found them to be very comparable with the bt bullet as far as accuracy and point of impact. I have not used them yet on game. I have found superformance gives me the best accuracy with them in the bolt 30-06 I use them in. I have tried 4064 4350 re19.
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Old January 22, 2015, 04:17 PM   #15
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The saying goes, every gun is a law unto itself. You have to experiment to find what it likes best. Most 30-06 and 308 Wins like the 168 grain Sierra MatchKing, but that's about as close to universal as you get with accuracy, and Sierra doesn't recommend that bullet for hunting.
Yesterday 02:41 PM

Been reloading for 06s and 308s for many years both milsurp and commercial rifles. I can't think of any bullet that gives greater accuracy than the 168 Sierra match. Theses bullets are like magic in the 06/308. I have yet to find an 06 that does not shoot well with them.


I am certain hunting bullets of same weight design would work well, but I prefer 180gr for hunting large game with an 06.
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Old January 22, 2015, 05:37 PM   #16
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I want to say thanks for all the input, very helpful !
I bought the 7th edition Nosler manual today and I also bought the little Lyman quick reference booklet.
When I get going on this , I'm thinking about getting the RCBS supreme kit that comes with the speer manual.
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Old January 22, 2015, 07:39 PM   #17
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Without knowing the parameters of how you hunt I'll just give things my best guess.
One, the 165 gr. Accubond is a good bullet in the 30-06. I can't give a whole lot of experience as I've only shot one animal with the bullet; a cow elk just about two weeks ago. One shot at about 100 yards and the hunt was done. Unfortunately I was not able to recover the bullet. For the record the load was the 165 gr. Accubond, 56.0 gr. of W760, Winchester standard large rifle primer and Winchester brass. Brass was trimmed, flash holes reamed and primer pockets uniformed. (I have more time than money. ) Velocity from my 24" barrel was 2790 FPS and the standard primer gave no ignition problems at +25*F.
Just a suggestion if I may. Try the 165 gr. Speer Hot Core. I shoot that bullet from a Ruger RSI in .308 Win. at 2550 FPS and that bullet has on one occasion penetrated a big Mule Deer from chest to back ham at 250 yards and that was the only time I recovered one of those bullets. I've take 15 deer with that rifle at ranges from 35 feet to 250 yards and all but the one mentioned were pass throughs. Nice thing is a box of those cost less than the Accubonds and you get 100 bullets rather than the 50 from Nosler.
Another choice if your ranges are that short might be the Sierra 180 gr. round nose. Nice smack down and a good blood trail if you need one.
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Old January 24, 2015, 08:05 AM   #18
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30-06 magic load

No, but I load 125 gr noslers ballistic tip with 53 gr imr4064 that seems perfect. We loaded 4 rounds at first. Shot one at 25 and another at 50 yrds to be on paper, then the next two almost went in the same hole at 100 yards. I've shot several Oklahoma white tail with it and every one has dropped right there. The bullet hasn't exited yet, and makes vitals gumbo. The last one tipped over stiff legged like a cartoon character and two of his hooves were almost still in their tracks. All this in an old beat up Ruger M77 from the 70's I bought on line!
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Old January 24, 2015, 10:40 AM   #19
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I use the accubond in 180 grains for my savage 30-06. Very good load 1 grain below max with 4831.
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Old January 24, 2015, 11:20 AM   #20
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I load Accubonds (165 &180's) in my 308, 30-06 and 300 WSM. They are not as accurate as a dedicated target bullet, but as accurate as any other hunting bullet I've tried. I've found it no trick to keep 3 shots well under 1"@ 100 yards in any of the weights or with any of my guns.

It is a more expensive bullet than needed for whitetails, but there is no downside to using them either. Basically you get the trajectory of the Ballistic Tips combined with the penetration of the Partition. There is a lot to be said for just developing and using one load for everything. If I had to choose only 1 bullet to hunt everything in NA it would be the 165 gr Accubond from a 3006 loaded to about 2900 fps.
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Old January 24, 2015, 05:14 PM   #21
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Jmr40, I bought the Speer #14 today and I'm thinking about loading 165 gr hot cor .
The manual shows 760 as a powder option , is that w 760 and I think it calls for a magnum primer.
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Old January 25, 2015, 09:22 AM   #22
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Depending on the way several people test a given bullet and cartridge, all sorts of case, primer powder make and charge weights plus OALs used will be claimed best.
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