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October 14, 2019, 08:42 PM | #1 |
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Can you strip a Mosin Nagant M91/30 bolt
Without a vise? I'm curious and don't have one nearby to try with.
http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinDisassembly.htm
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October 14, 2019, 08:50 PM | #2 |
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In theory, yes.
Remove bolt. Decock. And the front bits all slide off the firing pin. However... Mine and another that I've been 'intimate with' have the striker / firing pin peened in place on the cocking piece. So disassembling the back half of the bolt (bolt body, cocking piece, firing pin, and firing pin spring), or making a firing pin adjustment, are not happening without some mechanical assistance. (Pliers, vise, etc.)
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October 14, 2019, 09:26 PM | #3 |
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Thanks. Found this video:
https://youtu.be/1wN6ql5dzu8 Would anyone know if the average Soviet soldier was taught this?
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October 18, 2019, 02:04 PM | #4 |
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Yes, they were. If you watch that video to the end he shows you how to check the firing pin distance with the tool that was issued with the rifle.
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October 19, 2019, 11:12 AM | #5 | |
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That Iraqi Veteran video was interesting, and I am impressed that his result could be obtained from such a simple mechanism.
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I've known a couple of fellows who served as armorers in US service. Their philosophy seems to be that the people to whom they issue weapons aren't smart enough to do anything but cleaning, and they view with a gimlet eye any user improvement or fiddling. It's hard to imagine that someone born in the 1920s living under soviet government and whose formative experience being escape from starvation would enjoy greater trust from their armourers.
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October 19, 2019, 05:32 PM | #6 |
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I disassembled mine the same way the Slymin video does it, except when getting close to finishing unscrewing the firing pin, I'd have the FP in contact with a table so it wouldn't go flying off when unscrewed.
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October 20, 2019, 02:02 PM | #7 | |
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If "the lads" are allowed to tinker, things that would otherwise be working get bent, broken and often LOST, rendering a formerly serviceable piece of equipment unusable, and in extreme cases only useful for some spare parts. There are valid reasons why "users" are only allowed to disassemble items to certain points, AND NO FURTHER. I understand, getting things clean enough to satisfy one's superiors can be a real PITA without being able to take certain things apart. Been there, done that, etc. BUT, lose one little pin (say the one that holds the extractor..) and your rifle is now useful only for holding the bayonet on the end. Don't put that lower group (that you weren't authorized to take apart anyway) back together CORRECTLY, and you could have anything from one that goes full auto when it feels like it, to one that is non-functional or both, in that order. Got any idea how many M1 Carbines wound up needing repair because of the BS barracks rumor that, to improve the rifle, "all you need to do to get full auto is file the shear pin"??? (just one example, among many) The scene in Enemy at the Gates where the raw conscripts (recruits isn't the right word) were given rifles to every other guy and the odd guy got only a clip of ammo weren't the norm, but they did happen. Those guys almost certainly didn't get trained on proper bolt take down and maint, until after the battle, if they survived.. The Soviet system wasn't big on teaching anything that wasn't needed to get the immediate job done, and when in emergency mode, more than a bit less so... Some troops got full training, other's ...not so much...
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