Tightgroup powder - Page 2

308Loader · January 10, 2018, 06:41 PM

I am a 9mm TG convert. skeptical at first, but now am on my second # of it. meters really well out of my measure, a little goes a long way, great for plinking rounds, plated or jacketed. Runs pretty clean for me, and yes its hot, but not to the point that I'm concerned about it. I don't shoot jerry miculek fast (except when I try and fail

), nor do I own a full auto. If barrel is hot, I switch guns or take a break for a min, change targets, load some mags, shoot the s#!t with guys at the range... The charge weight window is some what narrow in the 9mm, I tend to load at the lower end 4.0-4.1 or so, works well with all 3 of my 9mm. As far as the concern of double charging, I can fit 2 charges of 4.0 in one case. It is super obvious when it is over charged, if this is a concern, I would suggest paying more attention to what your loading.

"Never his mind on where he is, what he is doing" - Master Yoda

my 2cents, for what its worth.

Nick_C_S · January 11, 2018, 04:26 PM

Good post 308Loader.

Name a pistol propellant that I have used, and I can name a characteristic that's unique to it. All propellants are different. I guess that's why they make for such great forum fodder.

The only time TiteGroup running hot is a problem for me (aside from not using lead slugs) is when I am practicing with my Model 67 for competition. I'm shooting six, speedloading; shooting six, speedloading; rinse, lather, repeat. In that situation, after about six or seven speedloaders full, the gun is too hot to handle. I have to put it down and give it a rest. But hey, I'm at the range - how bad can it be? Perspective

All-in-all, I give TiteGroup a big thumbs up.

It meters fantastic. Along with that consistent metering is consistent velocities at the range. TG stands up to the chronograph with low Extreme Spreads and Standard Deviations. And when it comes to the fear of double-charges, etc., 308Loader nailed it: "if this is a concern, I would suggest paying more attention to what you're loading." Perhaps a bit blunt, but the point remains. Don't set a bullet atop a case without checking its charge level - however you need to do that.

Runs super clean. It does get persnickity in 38 Special turned way down. When stepping the charge down, it suddenly gets grainy - but not sooty. I suspect this phenomenon would be much harder to duplicate in semi-auto cases. Furthermore, there isn't hardly any reason to turn them down that far anyway (I'm the exception. I do a lot of odd experimentation with 38 Spl.).

Economical. Not that I choose propellants based on economy (the least expensive of the components). But a little bit really does go a long way.

Stick with plated (or jacketed); load to "range practice" levels; and TiteGroup will serve you every bit as good as any other propellant. And better than most.

pete2 · January 11, 2018, 05:40 PM

I've shot several pounds of it in 9MM. Seems to work but I've never tried it for accuracy. I may load some in .38 and .45 and see if it does work for accuracy. Happy with WST and Bullseye for bullseye shooting.
Clays works well but availability sucks. I plan to work up loads with Green Dot in the .45 and 9 mm at some point. Green Dot is accurate in the .38 but doesn't burn well at low charges.

BBarn · January 11, 2018, 06:23 PM

Titegroup is quite versatile as well. I've shot some good (for me) groups from my 454 Casull with a "practice" load using Titegroup. Of course a Casull practice load is about like a Ruger/TC only 45 Colt load.

RSKENT · January 14, 2018, 06:37 AM

For 115 grain plated 9mm "Glock Chow", Tightgroup is my favorite powder. I’m not sure I would want to us it in all the calibers mentioned in this thread. For example, in 45 I like AA#2 or 231 or even Bullseye much better. And I just can’t see using Tightgroup for a magnum caliber. But if it works for you, it tickles me to death.

sbwaters · January 14, 2018, 10:22 AM

In my CZ75B, TG doesn’t run hot as far as the back end of my 9MM 125 gr. RN Blue Bullets are concerned. They like it.

jhansman · January 15, 2018, 10:58 PM

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Because of the very small charge weights, there is a clear and present danger of double charge or more.

Ummm, no, not really, if you are paying attention to what you are doing. Then again, I don't use a powder measure, and I inspect every charged case before the bullet is seated (single stage keeps you involved in every step). Yes, it doesn't take much for most calibers, but all the more reason to keep your eyes open. Hot? No evidence of this in my .357 or .45ACP loads.

January 10, 2018, 06:41 PM	#26
308Loader Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 639	I am a 9mm TG convert. skeptical at first, but now am on my second # of it. meters really well out of my measure, a little goes a long way, great for plinking rounds, plated or jacketed. Runs pretty clean for me, and yes its hot, but not to the point that I'm concerned about it. I don't shoot jerry miculek fast (except when I try and fail), nor do I own a full auto. If barrel is hot, I switch guns or take a break for a min, change targets, load some mags, shoot the s#!t with guys at the range... The charge weight window is some what narrow in the 9mm, I tend to load at the lower end 4.0-4.1 or so, works well with all 3 of my 9mm. As far as the concern of double charging, I can fit 2 charges of 4.0 in one case. It is super obvious when it is over charged, if this is a concern, I would suggest paying more attention to what your loading. "Never his mind on where he is, what he is doing" - Master Yoda my 2cents, for what its worth. __________________ Just a dude with stuff.

January 11, 2018, 04:26 PM	#27
Nick_C_S Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,523	Good post 308Loader. Name a pistol propellant that I have used, and I can name a characteristic that's unique to it. All propellants are different. I guess that's why they make for such great forum fodder. The only time TiteGroup running hot is a problem for me (aside from not using lead slugs) is when I am practicing with my Model 67 for competition. I'm shooting six, speedloading; shooting six, speedloading; rinse, lather, repeat. In that situation, after about six or seven speedloaders full, the gun is too hot to handle. I have to put it down and give it a rest. But hey, I'm at the range - how bad can it be? Perspective All-in-all, I give TiteGroup a big thumbs up. It meters fantastic. Along with that consistent metering is consistent velocities at the range. TG stands up to the chronograph with low Extreme Spreads and Standard Deviations. And when it comes to the fear of double-charges, etc., 308Loader nailed it: "if this is a concern, I would suggest paying more attention to what you're loading." Perhaps a bit blunt, but the point remains. Don't set a bullet atop a case without checking its charge level - however you need to do that. Runs super clean. It does get persnickity in 38 Special turned way down. When stepping the charge down, it suddenly gets grainy - but not sooty. I suspect this phenomenon would be much harder to duplicate in semi-auto cases. Furthermore, there isn't hardly any reason to turn them down that far anyway (I'm the exception. I do a lot of odd experimentation with 38 Spl.). Economical. Not that I choose propellants based on economy (the least expensive of the components). But a little bit really does go a long way. Stick with plated (or jacketed); load to "range practice" levels; and TiteGroup will serve you every bit as good as any other propellant. And better than most. __________________ Gun control laws benefit only criminals and politicians - but then, I repeat myself. Life Member, National Rifle Association

January 11, 2018, 05:40 PM	#28
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	I've shot several pounds of it in 9MM. Seems to work but I've never tried it for accuracy. I may load some in .38 and .45 and see if it does work for accuracy. Happy with WST and Bullseye for bullseye shooting. Clays works well but availability sucks. I plan to work up loads with Green Dot in the .45 and 9 mm at some point. Green Dot is accurate in the .38 but doesn't burn well at low charges.

January 11, 2018, 06:23 PM	#29
BBarn Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2015 Posts: 887	Titegroup is quite versatile as well. I've shot some good (for me) groups from my 454 Casull with a "practice" load using Titegroup. Of course a Casull practice load is about like a Ruger/TC only 45 Colt load.

January 14, 2018, 06:37 AM	#30
RSKENT Member Join Date: November 25, 2004 Location: Land of Blue Sky and Sunshine Posts: 38	For 115 grain plated 9mm "Glock Chow", Tightgroup is my favorite powder. I’m not sure I would want to us it in all the calibers mentioned in this thread. For example, in 45 I like AA#2 or 231 or even Bullseye much better. And I just can’t see using Tightgroup for a magnum caliber. But if it works for you, it tickles me to death.

January 14, 2018, 10:22 AM	#31
sbwaters Member Join Date: March 3, 2016 Posts: 16	In my CZ75B, TG doesn’t run hot as far as the back end of my 9MM 125 gr. RN Blue Bullets are concerned. They like it.