My brass, sold to a reloader, a legal risk? - Page 2

grymster2007 · September 30, 2009, 08:15 AM

Some say that a fingerprint wouldn't survive tumbling, sizing or firing, but we may not simply be talking skin oil here. There are acids in the skin oil that could etch the case, leaving a viable print long after the oil has been removed.

I still think the whole thing is not worth worrying about. Maybe I suffer from other paranoia, but those are valid..... because they're mine.

TEDDY · September 30, 2009, 03:39 PM

I had an object stolen from my metal lunch box. I took the box to police and
they not only could not get finger prints of it they could not get mine off.
so forget it you have wasted a whole thread on speculation of what if.the oils would kill the finger prints.ba humbug.

stevelyn · September 30, 2009, 04:36 PM

Most of the time you can't even get usable prints off objects. Besides, it's going to take more than a random print to make you a suspect let alone packaging it up to obtain a criminal conviction.

jg0001 · October 1, 2009, 02:18 PM

Well, let's not dismiss one thing, even if it's unlikely:
If someone was shot, and one casing was found near the body, and there was a fingerprint on it that was identified as mine, you can be sure as hell that the police would be knocking on my door. Does anyone really think that they'd ignore it or consider it circumstantial? I'm not saying it would lead to a conviction of any kind, but it still seems like something you would not want to happen. Again, we're talking a fingerprint on ammo, not on, say, a doorknob or desk or something.

I see it as little different than if a knife was left behind after a stabbing and it had my prints on it.

Dr. Strangelove · October 3, 2009, 12:56 AM

In your case, I would colllect the cases - only because it sounds like you are always going to worry about some liability you have out there.

Could the situation you describe happen - I won't say it's impossible, but chances are much more likely of some other catastrophe befalling you such as a car accident on the way to the range, accident on the shooting range, fatal illness, etc.

Easy answer: if you feel it's such a risk, then pick'em up.

bikerbill · October 4, 2009, 12:41 PM

Work on your alibi ...

Zildjian · October 4, 2009, 10:15 PM

A good re-loader will always clean his finished round before casing it up to shoot at a later time. You want a clean gun to fire as well as clean ammo to run thru it. But thats just an opinion. Most all re-loaders are good about that
so don't worry......be happy. Shoot to your hearts content.

**JohnKSa** · October 5, 2009, 01:05 AM

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I shoot 200-400 rounds every time I go to my local indoor range. I do not collect the brass, but the range does. They sell it to reloaders.

Many shooters do not collect their brass and every indoor range I'm aware of does.

If anyone ever comes to you about a finger print on a cartridge casing all you have to do is point out those facts and include the statement I quoted from your post.

September 30, 2009, 08:15 AM	#26
grymster2007 Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: In the oak studded hills near Napa Posts: 2,203	Some say that a fingerprint wouldn't survive tumbling, sizing or firing, but we may not simply be talking skin oil here. There are acids in the skin oil that could etch the case, leaving a viable print long after the oil has been removed. I still think the whole thing is not worth worrying about. Maybe I suffer from other paranoia, but those are valid..... because they're mine. __________________ grym

September 30, 2009, 03:39 PM	#27
TEDDY Junior member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: MANNING SC Posts: 837	fingerprint I had an object stolen from my metal lunch box. I took the box to police and they not only could not get finger prints of it they could not get mine off. so forget it you have wasted a whole thread on speculation of what if.the oils would kill the finger prints.ba humbug.

September 30, 2009, 04:36 PM	#28
stevelyn Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: Fairbanksan in exile to Aleutian Hell Posts: 2,655	Most of the time you can't even get usable prints off objects. Besides, it's going to take more than a random print to make you a suspect let alone packaging it up to obtain a criminal conviction. __________________ Stop Allowing Our Schools To Be Soft Targets! http://fastersaveslives.org/ East Moose. Wear Wolf.

October 4, 2009, 12:41 PM	#31
bikerbill Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2007 Location: Lago Vista TX Posts: 2,425	Work on your alibi ... __________________ "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." Albert Camus

October 4, 2009, 10:15 PM	#32
Zildjian Member Join Date: October 2, 2009 Location: Ballinger, Tx. Posts: 47	Don't worry A good re-loader will always clean his finished round before casing it up to shoot at a later time. You want a clean gun to fire as well as clean ammo to run thru it. But thats just an opinion. Most all re-loaders are good about that so don't worry......be happy. Shoot to your hearts content. __________________ I Dont know you....but I have met you 1,000 times before.

October 1, 2009, 02:18 PM	#29
jg0001 Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2007 Posts: 551	Well, let's not dismiss one thing, even if it's unlikely: If someone was shot, and one casing was found near the body, and there was a fingerprint on it that was identified as mine, you can be sure as hell that the police would be knocking on my door. Does anyone really think that they'd ignore it or consider it circumstantial? I'm not saying it would lead to a conviction of any kind, but it still seems like something you would not want to happen. Again, we're talking a fingerprint on ammo, not on, say, a doorknob or desk or something. I see it as little different than if a knife was left behind after a stabbing and it had my prints on it.

October 3, 2009, 12:56 AM	#30
Dr. Strangelove Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2008 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 1,436	In your case, I would colllect the cases - only because it sounds like you are always going to worry about some liability you have out there. Could the situation you describe happen - I won't say it's impossible, but chances are much more likely of some other catastrophe befalling you such as a car accident on the way to the range, accident on the shooting range, fatal illness, etc. Easy answer: if you feel it's such a risk, then pick'em up.