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Speaking from the perspective of a person that reloads primarily to save money, if you're not looking for specialty loads, .223/5.56 and 9mm won't save you enough cash to make it worth your time. (At least not at the moment when ammo prices aren't through the roof.) The only reason that I reload 9mm anymore is to shoot at a local range that doesn't allow jacketed bullets.
.308 and .40 are another story though being that they're both more expensive to purchase off the shelf. Savings go up from there in direct proportion with the cost of the ammo off the shelf. A box of .45-70 costs about $35 locally and if I estimate $0.50 each to reload them, that's $25 a box I save. |
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It's at a private club. They say that it's because the steel backstop at 30 feet from the line makes for ricochets with jacketed bullets.
I'm pretty sure it's because the folks running the range assume that it will weed out a lot of the people that would abuse the range by only allowing those dedicated enough to reload their own ammunition on it. I'm not so sure about that bit, but at least it's never very busy when I want to use it. |
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Why would you only purchase 4 pounds of powder?
8 pounds jugs are out there, and buying four jugs (32 pounds of powder) spread the hazmat out to less than $1 a pound. |
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I think he just priced 4 pounds because that's about what it takes to load 1000 rounds. (and it looks like the 4 x 1-pound rate)
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I did my calculations and I can reload 223 for 4 bucks a box of 20. Localy that's over 50% savings since 8 is the cheapest American eagle, which is never in stock and 10 a box for wwb.
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I also chose Varget (more expensive) because I have read it is a good all around powder for various 5.56 loads. IMHO best site on the net for all gun related discussions. Thanks again fellas!
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I looked it up when I first saw his post, and it appears he's correct - the rule comes from the Maryland State Fire Marshall regulations. Anything over five pounds of smokeless powder requires a license. It also appears that you can't store powder in "multifamily dwellings, apartments, dormitories, hotels, schools, other public buildings, or buildings or structures open for public use."
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One thing that you should keep in mind, is once you have your press etc. To change to a different cartridge all you need is a set of dies and maybe a shell holder depending on the dies you buy or the case head size. Some cartridges can be loaded with the same powder, some can be loaded with the same bullet, and some can be loaded with the same primer.
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Now let the try to enforce the limit in a private single family house.
And not it is 5 pounds, not 4. The entire rest of the law still needs to be reviewed for applicability. |
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wogpotter said that five pounds was the limit, so I'm not sure who you're correcting.
Whether the law is actively enforced or not, that's not the issue. It's still there, so now you have your answer - in Maryland, you're required to obtain a license before storing more than five pounds of smokeless powder for reloading purposes. |
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Thank you ScottRiqui I appreciate your posting the info.
brickeyee I'm not sure what your problem is, can you explain why you feel the need to start a brawl in a perfectly polite topic. The question was why buy less than 4 Lbs, because it's not legal was a perfectly good answer, regardless of if you agree with the law or not As for enforcement when you buy powder in MD it is logged & recorded, so there is enforcement of a sort, all be it unworkable, & virtually unenforcable but would you put down in writing that you were in the process of violating a state code, sign it & have it logged in abound book? I disagree with the rule but as it's on the books I am bound by it, regardless of if I like it or not. The limit is a TOTAL of 5 Lbs of smokeless & 5 more of B/P, so if you have a couple of different types of smokeless powder & add another 4Lbs. 4+1+1=6 & the limit is 5.
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5# limit for black powder almost makes sense. 5# limit for smokeless is ridiculous -- 20 would be OK, or more with a properly constructed powder magazine.
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50% of a box of 5.56 is about $3. 50% of a box of 45-70 is around $20. 50% of a box of 9mm is $4. 50% of a box of 45 auto is at least $10. |
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I reload for 7.42x54R it cost me more than twice as much as the spam can ammo to reload for it. Though it is a lot easier on the shoulder, and more accurate so I reload for it as well. Though I do not shoot a whole lot of them most of the time. It was to help the Mrs. as she has a preexisting back, and neck injury that shooting spam can ammo makes her want to go home after shooting ten rounds. With the hand loads she can shoot 50 and is mad that she ran out of ammo. Looks like I am gonna have to buy her some more of that Norma Brass from Midway.
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