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Old March 27, 2009, 10:59 AM   #1
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CCW Reciprocity In California

Along with AB 357 pushing to get the right to carry more readily available to Californians, there is a bill to force California to acknowledge and allow CCW permits from other states. If you have your CCW and would like to carry in California, please make your wish known to whoever you think it may help

AB 1167

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/...ntroduced.html
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Old March 27, 2009, 11:14 AM   #2
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Wow, good one! I don't vacation in California for this reason.

I will write a couple of reps to let them know that they are missing out on my tourism money due to this issue, but they have the power to change that.
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Old March 27, 2009, 12:22 PM   #3
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That's a step. The more pressure they get, the better
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Old March 27, 2009, 12:41 PM   #4
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"... pursuant to California law.", so you can carry in California if the state you're in recognizes their CCW permit but you can only carry what they say you can carry. I would link to the California DOJ website for the approved gun list but there is only so much I can do from my phone.
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Old March 27, 2009, 12:54 PM   #5
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Old March 27, 2009, 01:11 PM   #6
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I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I wouldn't get too all worked up over shall-issue in CA. The power comes from Los Angeles, the Bay Area and San Diego and the politicians representing those areas are overwhelmingly anti-gun. I don't see this going anywhere.
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Old March 27, 2009, 01:21 PM   #7
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Well, actually sandiego is not as bad as you may think. And if Enough pressure is brought forward, then this issue may be put to a vote. But people need to be informed about this issue and lawmakers need to know how the people feel.
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Old March 27, 2009, 02:27 PM   #8
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Yeah, you're right; San Diego may not be so bad, but with Los Angeles and the SF Bay Area accounting for ~70% of the state's population, it really don't much matter. I'm not saying that the prospect is hopeless or that people should give up, just that the deck is stacked pretty heavily against us at this point.
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Old March 27, 2009, 02:35 PM   #9
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We feel your pain here in NY. The whole damn state is dominated by Bloomberg and New York City.
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Old March 27, 2009, 02:38 PM   #10
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Put to a referendum, Californians approve many items which the state legislature would never, ever, under any circumstances pass. I see this bill as something the legislature would never pass, but which might be approved should it appear on the ballot via referendum.

I'm not versed in California constitutional law or statutes - does anyone know if this is the sort of law which might be put to a referendum or would it be excluded?
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Old March 28, 2009, 02:33 AM   #11
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Hell, we amend the constitution, and there are still idiots in the streets screaming that it's unconstitutional. No, it's IN the constitution now, see, it can't be "unconstitutional" if it is IN the constitution.

The states population may be 70% liberal, but the government's percentage is higher than that. Even our RINO's are...never mind. Regardless, we still need to support these as much a possible. They need to hear what we think. If it doesn't pass this way, then we need to see about a referendum or something. We all sign enough petitions, and get a public vote on it, and you never know. We might at least get to hear a couple of judges tell us no anyway. With what just happened in the bay area, I would hope the LEO community would be for it. The more honest, law abiding, citizens that are legally armed, the better. For them, and for us.

Thanks Nikop23 for putting it out there, I sent my letters as well. The more help we get from out of state, the better.
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My best friend lives in California. It'd be great to be able to carry when I visit him.
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viperjon, we've got the same problem here in IL. with Chicago and the Daley machine. We can't get anything passed because most of the state's population resides in the Chicago metro area....
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