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December 18, 2017, 06:16 PM | #26 |
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In addition to the Federal .38 wadcutter Match ammunition, I also have boxes of Winchester .38 Super Match wadcutter ammunition that have dual cannelures on the cases. The top cannelure is exactly the same distance below the neck as the single cannelure on the Federal match cases. So it would appear that the cannelure locations are there for a purpose, to accommodate wadcutter bullets seated to the cannelure depths and rightly can be called wadcutter cases.
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In the 19th Century, when they still parked bullets in cases with hand tools sometimes, the case cannelure was an even deeper crease serving as a bullet stop so the lady pushing the bullets into them on the line didn't push them too far. With modern brass, it is mainly used just as a load identifier, AFAIK. For example, Lake City put cannelure's on their M852 brass down by the head. It was made with 168 grain Sierra HP match bullets, and the Adjutant General ruling allowing non-expanding hollowpoints, as these match bullets have, had not yet been made, so they wanted a quick check to ensure these rounds were not shipped for use in combat, and the cannelure was it. Additionally, the box said it wasn't for combat, but this was redundant insurance, I suppose.
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And I wonder; was the ring around the case used as a bullet stop or did the ring abound the case prevent the bullet from seating deeper due to recoil. And then there is rolling the ring around the case after the bullet is seated, before that there was 'the stake'. F. Guffey |
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December 20, 2017, 10:29 AM | #30 |
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just an aside, when i bought my 38, you generally had two choices available, the standard lrn, and federal wadcutters.
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December 22, 2017, 06:14 PM | #32 |
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The cases looked familiar. The case on the left in the upper image and I forgot who made it but it is around here somewhere and the lower image is a REM-UMC nickel plated case with a wad cutter bullet beside it. Yes, my alignment sucks. The lower image is a factory load going back maybe 30 years or so. I have not seen any new or recent production 38 Special WC factory stuff in years.
Sorry about the color in the upper image, just do not look at it too long. Ron |
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Is this better?
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December 22, 2017, 07:07 PM | #34 |
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But is the middle round a duel end? It looks like a button type end and certainly would not fit in a Smith 52 magazine that requires a flush wadcutter, ala duel end type. Neither would the coated DEWC as shown unless seated flush.
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That's strange, my headache went away. Much, much better and thank you Unclenick.
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December 23, 2017, 02:24 PM | #37 |
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148 gn Remington HBWC at Midway now (yes I have a box coming).
Remington Match Bullets 38 Caliber (360 Diameter) 148 Grain Lead Hollow Base Wadcutter https://www.midwayusa.com/product/35...base-wadcutter
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