Smith and Wesson serial number search - Page 86

FlyFish · November 16, 2009, 10:54 AM

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serial number for a model 27- s 98381

1953-54; $275-$800

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pre-model 29- s 171xxx

1956-57; $400-$2000

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38 special- c 240xxx

1953; $185-$300

That should be a "pre"-27, and I've assumed that the .38 Special is a pre-10 with regard to the pricing (the other possibility would be a pre-12 "Airweight" which likely would be worth a bit more. There are so many variables involved in estimating value, particularly with older guns such as these, that I've only provided the SCSW-listed range for "fair" to "excellent" to give you an idea. I think you can safely add about 25% or more to those numbers given the increases in S&W revolver values lately. Also, the pre-29 and perhaps also the pre-27 come from the era of "Coke" stocks, and if they have them that would be a significant factor in setting the value.

dregg100 · November 16, 2009, 02:40 PM

the 27 and 29 both have the coke stocks. both are also beautiful guns for their age. no rusting or pitting. no scratches etc. i used to know a great deal more about these, but have forgotten most of it. any other info would be great. thanks for the help!

also, how do i tell what type of 38 it is?

FlyFish · November 16, 2009, 03:13 PM

The pre-12 "Airweight" had an alloy frame and originally an alloy cylinder, later changed to steel due cracking problems. You can test the frame with a magnet. Value range for an Airweight would be $235 to $600 (same caveats as with previous pricing).

If the .357 and .44 have their original Cokes numbered to the gun then you're getting up into some serious money, particularly in the condition you describe (and even more so if you have the original boxes), so I'd advise you to get them properly appraised if you're considering selling. You might also want to post over on the S&W Forum, with pics if you've got any - that's where the real S&W experts hang out.

longlane · November 16, 2009, 05:14 PM

Could someone help identify this revolver? It's a S&W .32 Long. Walnut, checkered, medalion-ed grips. Small S&W logo. Pinned barrel. 6-shot. Blued. Half-circle front fixed sight. Square notched fixed rear. The gun has three screws on the right side, one on the left cylinder release, and one on the top front of the trigger guard. The barrel markings are what's messing with me. Right side, ".32 Long CTG" Left side, "Smith & Wesson"

Numbers on the gun: bottom grip (on the frame, not the grips) 605XXX this number is also visible on the inside of the cylinder swing arm [between the cylinder and the swing arm--when opened--you have to look through the cylinder with a flashlight to see it]. Same number under the barrel---also a small "v" all by itself close to where the barrel meets the frame under the barrel.

With the cylinder open, you can also see some other numbers on the frame: top line "11", second line "907XX" under this you can see a strange mark--an 8 in a circle?

I bought a blue book, but it continues to confound my attempts at verification...

The owner has had it for over 10 years.

*ANY* information would be most helpful, and many thanks in advance for any thoughts on the gun...great shooter btw...

laytonj1 · November 16, 2009, 05:24 PM

longlane,

It's a post war .32 Hand Ejector (pre model 30). Serial numbers ran from 536685 in 1946 to 712953 in 1960. Yours (605XXX) dates to pre 1956.
There's actually 4 screws on the sideplate, one is hidden by the grips.

Jim

longlane · November 16, 2009, 05:32 PM

It was vexing me due to the barrel markings, the "v," and the circle-8 mark. Any idea what any of these mean? Also, any ref. books you could recommend to learn more would be most appreciated. Many, many thanks!

laytonj1 · November 16, 2009, 05:38 PM

I can't explain the V or circle 8 (although it might be buried in the book somewhere) but the other numbers are assembly markings.
The reference book for S&W is the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson currently on it's third edition.

Jim

longlane · November 16, 2009, 05:41 PM

I'll have a copy before the week's out.

TravisBakerUSN · November 16, 2009, 06:19 PM

Looking for date/approx. value of S&W 39-2...serial: A199040. Thanks a million!

FlyFish · November 16, 2009, 09:24 PM

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Looking for date/approx. value of S&W 39-2...serial: A199040.

1973-74.
SCSW lists $250 in good condition, $325 for excellent. Current value is probably a bit higher.

Sgt Pepper · November 17, 2009, 02:04 AM

How about this S&W? I believe that it is a Model 1-1/2 in .32 S&W, but that's just me guessing. Serial #18932. Looks terrible, but the action and trigger are fantastic!

tel0004 · November 17, 2009, 03:08 AM

Sgt. Pepper:

Looks like a model 1 1/2 to me.

The Serial numbers ran from 1-97,574, and the dates of production were 1878-1892.

The book doesn't break it down any more than that, but since your gun was made 30% into the serial numbers used, we could guess that its around the early to mid 1880's, but without a letter from S&W, its only a guess.

dregg100 · November 17, 2009, 11:19 AM

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The pre-12 "Airweight" had an alloy frame and originally an alloy cylinder, later changed to steel due cracking problems. You can test the frame with a magnet. Value range for an Airweight would be $235 to $600 (same caveats as with previous pricing).

If the .357 and .44 have their original Cokes numbered to the gun then you're getting up into some serious money, particularly in the condition you describe (and even more so if you have the original boxes), so I'd advise you to get them properly appraised if you're considering selling. You might also want to post over on the S&W Forum, with pics if you've got any - that's where the real S&W experts hang out.

popped the grips off and damned if the 357 doesnt have the "numbers matching"grips to boot. the 44, i couldnt find anything. does that mean they arent original or im just looking in the wrong place?

-masin

FlyFish · November 17, 2009, 12:26 PM

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does that mean they arent original or im just looking in the wrong place?

I'd assume the numbers would be in the same place as on the .357 grips, but I honestly don't know for sure - we're pretty much at the limits of my knowledge here. Maybe someone who has first-hand experience will jump in and educate both of us.

laytonj1 · November 17, 2009, 10:23 PM

Target style grips were not always numbered to the gun because they usually do not require much if any fitting. Magna / service grips are usually numbered to the gun because they had to be individually fitted.
If there are no numbers on your "coke" target grips they could be original or added after the fact. It would take a letter from S&W to know for sure what it orginally shipped with.

Jim

Boomer8404 · November 18, 2009, 03:32 AM

S&W M60-9 CCT5xxx. Please, Thanks.

laytonj1 · November 18, 2009, 02:19 PM

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S&W M60-9 CCT5xxx.

~1998.

Jim

gyvel · November 19, 2009, 08:36 AM

Model 19-7, S/N BRW10XX??

tel0004 · November 19, 2009, 01:17 PM

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Model 19-7, S/N BRW10XX??

BRFxxxx was August of 1994, so yours is probably late 1994.

ahaywood5785 · November 20, 2009, 01:09 AM

I just inherited what I believe to be a K-38 Target Masterpiece. 6" Barrel, Partridge Front Sight, Non Relieved Target Grips.

The gun is 90% that I can see, very nice, have not taken it down yet. Serial Number is 743xx, with a small "4" over the fourth number and a small "3" under the second number. It was my Grandfather's gun, and in doing some research and reading many of the threads here, I am thinking it is a early 1950s gun, but I could be wrong.

Any takers?

laytonj1 · November 20, 2009, 01:47 AM

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I just inherited what I believe to be a K-38 Target Masterpiece. 6" Barrel, Partridge Front Sight, Non Relieved Target Grips.

The gun is 90% that I can see, very nice, have not taken it down yet. Serial Number is 743xx, with a small "4" over the fourth number and a small "3" under the second number. It was my Grandfather's gun, and in doing some research and reading many of the threads here, I am thinking it is a early 1950s gun, but I could be wrong.

Take the serial number from the underside of the grip butt. You will need to remove the grips to see it. It will have a "K" prefix.
BTW, it's patridge front sight.

Jim

The Flemish · November 20, 2009, 06:42 PM

Hello,

I just got my first S&W 41.
I already own a 422, 2206, 1 1/2, 586, 686, 29 etc
Can anyone tell me when this 41 was manufactured ?
serial is BMC21XX

Thanks

The Flemish · November 20, 2009, 07:18 PM

and if I don't abuse

mod 422 serial TBC14xx
mod 2206 serial TEZ60xx
mod 29-2 serial 321xxx

Thanks

onebadscrambler · November 20, 2009, 09:14 PM

I believe these are the dates you are looking for. I have been mistaken before.
BMC21xx-Feb 1993
TBC14xx-1987
TEZ60xx-Apr 1990
321xxx- 1975-76

che · November 21, 2009, 12:51 AM

I have a s&w 38 special ctg that has flowers all over, used to belong to my grandfather, before he die he left me that gun, I enjoy the art this gun has. It has about 6in barrel, like shooting target site and gold points on it. And on the butt of the revolver has a number that starts with K 160793. I can shoot so accurate with this gun like my rifle 22 marlin. Whitch surprises me. I would like to know more about this gun and how much can be worth. Please forgive my english since is really poor..

November 16, 2009, 05:14 PM	#2129
longlane Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 162	Hard time with a .32 Long S&W Could someone help identify this revolver? It's a S&W .32 Long. Walnut, checkered, medalion-ed grips. Small S&W logo. Pinned barrel. 6-shot. Blued. Half-circle front fixed sight. Square notched fixed rear. The gun has three screws on the right side, one on the left cylinder release, and one on the top front of the trigger guard. The barrel markings are what's messing with me. Right side, ".32 Long CTG" Left side, "Smith & Wesson" Numbers on the gun: bottom grip (on the frame, not the grips) 605XXX this number is also visible on the inside of the cylinder swing arm [between the cylinder and the swing arm--when opened--you have to look through the cylinder with a flashlight to see it]. Same number under the barrel---also a small "v" all by itself close to where the barrel meets the frame under the barrel. With the cylinder open, you can also see some other numbers on the frame: top line "11", second line "907XX" under this you can see a strange mark--an 8 in a circle? I bought a blue book, but it continues to confound my attempts at verification... The owner has had it for over 10 years. ANY information would be most helpful, and many thanks in advance for any thoughts on the gun...great shooter btw... __________________ In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. -T.W. Last edited by Glenn E. Meyer; November 30, 2013 at 11:47 AM.

November 16, 2009, 05:32 PM	#2131
longlane Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 162	Thanks Jim! It was vexing me due to the barrel markings, the "v," and the circle-8 mark. Any idea what any of these mean? Also, any ref. books you could recommend to learn more would be most appreciated. Many, many thanks! __________________ In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. -T.W.

November 16, 2009, 05:41 PM	#2133
longlane Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 162	Many thanks again I'll have a copy before the week's out. __________________ In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. -T.W.

November 20, 2009, 01:09 AM	#2145
ahaywood5785 Junior Member Join Date: November 20, 2009 Posts: 2	k-38 Masterpiece? I just inherited what I believe to be a K-38 Target Masterpiece. 6" Barrel, Partridge Front Sight, Non Relieved Target Grips. The gun is 90% that I can see, very nice, have not taken it down yet. Serial Number is 743xx, with a small "4" over the fourth number and a small "3" under the second number. It was my Grandfather's gun, and in doing some research and reading many of the threads here, I am thinking it is a early 1950s gun, but I could be wrong. Any takers?

November 20, 2009, 06:42 PM	#2147
The Flemish Junior Member Join Date: August 6, 2006 Location: Belgium, East Flanders Posts: 2	S&W 41 Hello, I just got my first S&W 41. I already own a 422, 2206, 1 1/2, 586, 686, 29 etc Can anyone tell me when this 41 was manufactured ? serial is BMC21XX Thanks

November 16, 2009, 02:40 PM	#2127
dregg100 Junior Member Join Date: November 16, 2009 Posts: 3	the 27 and 29 both have the coke stocks. both are also beautiful guns for their age. no rusting or pitting. no scratches etc. i used to know a great deal more about these, but have forgotten most of it. any other info would be great. thanks for the help! also, how do i tell what type of 38 it is?

November 16, 2009, 03:13 PM	#2128
FlyFish Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Location: Overlooking the Baker River Valley Posts: 1,723	The pre-12 "Airweight" had an alloy frame and originally an alloy cylinder, later changed to steel due cracking problems. You can test the frame with a magnet. Value range for an Airweight would be $235 to $600 (same caveats as with previous pricing). If the .357 and .44 have their original Cokes numbered to the gun then you're getting up into some serious money, particularly in the condition you describe (and even more so if you have the original boxes), so I'd advise you to get them properly appraised if you're considering selling. You might also want to post over on the S&W Forum, with pics if you've got any - that's where the real S&W experts hang out.

November 16, 2009, 05:24 PM	#2130
laytonj1 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2005 Posts: 4,443	longlane, It's a post war .32 Hand Ejector (pre model 30). Serial numbers ran from 536685 in 1946 to 712953 in 1960. Yours (605XXX) dates to pre 1956. There's actually 4 screws on the sideplate, one is hidden by the grips. Jim

November 16, 2009, 05:38 PM	#2132
laytonj1 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2005 Posts: 4,443	I can't explain the V or circle 8 (although it might be buried in the book somewhere) but the other numbers are assembly markings. The reference book for S&W is the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson currently on it's third edition. Jim

November 16, 2009, 06:19 PM	#2134
TravisBakerUSN Junior Member Join Date: November 16, 2009 Posts: 1	Looking for date/approx. value of S&W 39-2...serial: A199040. Thanks a million!

November 17, 2009, 02:04 AM	#2136
Sgt Pepper Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 811	How about this S&W? I believe that it is a Model 1-1/2 in .32 S&W, but that's just me guessing. Serial #18932. Looks terrible, but the action and trigger are fantastic!

November 17, 2009, 03:08 AM	#2137
tel0004 Member Join Date: June 24, 2005 Posts: 45	Sgt. Pepper: Looks like a model 1 1/2 to me. The Serial numbers ran from 1-97,574, and the dates of production were 1878-1892. The book doesn't break it down any more than that, but since your gun was made 30% into the serial numbers used, we could guess that its around the early to mid 1880's, but without a letter from S&W, its only a guess.

November 17, 2009, 10:23 PM	#2140
laytonj1 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2005 Posts: 4,443	Target style grips were not always numbered to the gun because they usually do not require much if any fitting. Magna / service grips are usually numbered to the gun because they had to be individually fitted. If there are no numbers on your "coke" target grips they could be original or added after the fact. It would take a letter from S&W to know for sure what it orginally shipped with. Jim

November 18, 2009, 03:32 AM	#2141
Boomer8404 Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2007 Location: Far West Texas Posts: 109	S&W M60-9 CCT5xxx. Please, Thanks.

November 19, 2009, 08:36 AM	#2143
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Model 19-7, S/N BRW10XX??

November 20, 2009, 07:18 PM	#2148
The Flemish Junior Member Join Date: August 6, 2006 Location: Belgium, East Flanders Posts: 2	and if I don't abuse mod 422 serial TBC14xx mod 2206 serial TEZ60xx mod 29-2 serial 321xxx Thanks

November 20, 2009, 09:14 PM	#2149
onebadscrambler Member Join Date: November 3, 2009 Location: Fruitland Park, FL Posts: 36	I believe these are the dates you are looking for. I have been mistaken before. BMC21xx-Feb 1993 TBC14xx-1987 TEZ60xx-Apr 1990 321xxx- 1975-76

November 21, 2009, 12:51 AM	#2150
che Junior Member Join Date: November 21, 2009 Posts: 6	I have a s&w 38 special ctg that has flowers all over, used to belong to my grandfather, before he die he left me that gun, I enjoy the art this gun has. It has about 6in barrel, like shooting target site and gold points on it. And on the butt of the revolver has a number that starts with K 160793. I can shoot so accurate with this gun like my rifle 22 marlin. Whitch surprises me. I would like to know more about this gun and how much can be worth. Please forgive my english since is really poor..