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August 13, 2017, 09:04 PM | #1 |
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The first few posts in this thread were moved from OldMarksman's thread "Before You Submit that Post...." to provide a better thread for discussion of that post. -- Spats
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I suppose it is all about interpretation.
One may say belonging to a gun forum at all could compromise the member as some sort of gun nut. On the other hand one could argue most of us are here to gain information adding to our knowledge of current laws and proper training for safe care of and operation of firearms. Point well taken though by the author that all things interweb are part of a potential individual profile that could help or hinder your future. |
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I think it's good advice, I've been slowly disconnecting from social media. Will eventually end my activities on TFL. Being a member here is taboo in some circles and it's never going to get better. The subject of guns never crosses my lips anymore. The anonymity of the internet has disappeared. Somehow Facebook and Twitter have become the final authority. I took down my U.S. Flag from my front yard last evening to never put it back out.
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Is that because of some Homeowner's association/ government rule or because a lot of people in your area shun the American flag? |
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The problem with using a conversation from a forum or facebook or other form of internet posting is that people don't often portray themselves as they truly are. There is a psychological name for this but I don't recall what it is. There are no "internal governors" on the internet and no repercussions. One can be whomever they wish in any given conversation. What they say or do on the internet has no real bearing on their actions in their real lives where there are responsibilities and discipline that occur because of ones actions.
I agree that a prosecutor might use it in court but the defense could just as easily show that it has no bearing in real life. People pretend to be members of the opposite gender, a younger or older age, and as having served in the military when they never did. The internet is a play land where real people rarely meet. |
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The Interwebz may have enhanced the speed and ease with which someone can mislead others about who he really is and what he really thinks, but it hasn't fundamentally changed the way humans interact, nor how the courts view those interactions. Quote:
If the defendant made statements that later come back to bite him or her on the rear, well, that's the very nature of taking responsibility for one's actions. It's facile to assume that a court will somehow discount potentially incriminating statements simply because it was the Internet and "I was just kidding, everybody does it!" Quote:
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If you are really worried about your privacy, then you shouldn't be online period, not just on gun forums. Laws change and the Zeitgeist of the ages change. What may be perfectly legal and acceptable now may be illegal and contemptible later. Don't think it could happen in America? Think again.
Certain handguns, long guns, knives and their accessories that are perfectly legal today may become highly illegal tomorrow. You could be branded a criminal overnight at the stroke of a pen. A future totalitarian Govt. would have an enormous list of resources to reference. I've never understood people who feel the need to publicly list every firearm they own on forum posts. I do reference my own firearms when it is pertinent to the discussion at hand but I do not provide a permanent, detailed list for anti-gun groups, thieves or anyone else that I don't know to see. Why make it easy for them? Should we all be sweating and fretting with fear about something we said today that could be used against us 10, 20 or even 30 years from now? It's unlikely, but possible. If I were that worried about it I wouldn't be here. Websites go down or become inaccessible over time, people get new CPU's, change emails and IP addresses, surf anonymously, etc. but there is always a shadow looming over you, the threat is there. So you must be careful what you say or stay offline completely. Even then, the wrong person can still film and record you in person with their phones and cause you a great deal of trouble, as some LEO's and Neo-Nazi's have recently found out the hard way. It's a lovely world we live in today isn't it? Last edited by Concerned Citizen; September 1, 2017 at 05:27 AM. |
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Sure, never leaving your house might make you safer, but it's also a pretty extreme step. You can leave your house and yet still minimize risks to your personal safety by doing things like wearing your seatbelt and carrying a concealed firearm that you're proficient with. The same thing goes for being online: You can go online and still work to minimize your loss of privacy. Don't post too much personal information, don't use simple passwords, and set your social media accounts to only be viewed by certain people.
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As my mother used to say - loooooooong before The Internet was even a moist concept, "... before you write down, consider that it may someday be above-the-fold in the New York Times."
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