1911 help

Beentown71 · January 10, 2018, 10:53 PM

I am looking to get a stainless 1911 in 9mm. Something like the Kimber Pro Raptor II. I want something other than the Kimber. I find others I like but they get REALLY pricey. So what other companies should I look into? Would really like to stay under $1200.

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jmhyer · January 10, 2018, 11:09 PM

Love my Springfield Armory 1911...

http://www.springfield-armory.com/pr...5-acp/#PX9151L

Charlie98 · January 10, 2018, 11:17 PM

Why do you not want a Kimber?

Viper225 · January 10, 2018, 11:21 PM

Google Buy Springfield Armory 1911 9mm then check out Gun Broker listings.
I just took a look and found a Stainless Steel Range Officer in 9mm for $899.99 "Buy Now price" and it was NEW.
I prefer Springfield Armory over Kimber myself.

Bob R

**Aguila Blanca** · January 10, 2018, 11:24 PM

Look at Springfield Armory. I would suggest Rock Island, but I think theirs are nickel plated rather than stainless. You could also check Metro Arms (American Classic), and Shooters Arms manufacturing to see if they have a 9mm in their lineup.

And, of course, there's Colt: https://www.colt.com/Portals/0/Specs/2017/o1072CCS.pdf
The Colt is within your price range, and I doubt you'll find a better 1911 at anywhere near that price.

L-2 · January 10, 2018, 11:25 PM

https://www.ruger.com/products/sr191...eets/6722.html
I'm hearing good things regarding this Ruger.
I only have its .45 ACP 4.25" version, however, and don't have any 9mm 1911 guns.

Rangerrich99 · January 10, 2018, 11:49 PM

I picked up the Ruger 1911 in 9mm a little over a year ago and like it a lot, for what it is.

It's simply a stainless no-frills 1911 that has been pretty reliable, a little picky about mags, with a decent 1911 trigger (a little more pre-travel than I'd like, but acceptable), and good accuracy out to 25 yards (as far as I've shot at anything with it).

It would be nice if it had front strap checkering, night sights, and a couple other details that my more expensive 1911s have, but considering that I bought it for less than $650, I really can't complain. The trigger is surprisingly clean-breaking, and it feels like it has about a 5 lb. pull. In fact, in spite of its lack of doohickeys and mods, it's my favorite 9mm pistol; it's just the most fun to shoot and it is more accurate than any of my other 9s, slow or fast fire. My only real wish is that it came with 13-14 rd mags; 9-10 is just not enough fun!

I wish I could give you more options for you, but I'm just not that familiar with all the SS 9mm 1911s out there.

Good luck in your search.

Cirdan · January 11, 2018, 12:32 AM

I have the SR1911 in stainless. Commander sized. I like it, a lot, but admit I'm not a 1911 fanboy.

rock185 · January 11, 2018, 01:28 AM

I don't know Beentown, if you want something like a Pro Raptor, why not buy a Pro Raptor? Is it price, reports of breakage or functional problems?

I haven't owned that particular model, but have owned three 9MM Kimbers, and one 38 Super Kimber set up as 9MM also. The one thing they all had in common was functional reliability. This, without having to adjust, tune, tinker with or polish anything. Even the Kimber I set up for both 38 Super and 9MM works in either caliber with boring reliability. And other than one cracked magazine, probably 15+ years ago, nothing has ever broken on a Kimber I've owned. Undoubtedly, plenty of 1911 type 9MMs available within your budget, I've owned some of them myself. Just wish they'd all worked as well as the much maligned Kimbers........

rodfac · January 11, 2018, 08:32 AM

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Beentown71 · January 11, 2018, 11:12 AM

Thanks for the ideals all. Why not a Kimber? Had them and just looking to expand my ownership experience. Truthfully I think they are overpriced but I am also known to be too frugal....

Thanks again!

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RickB · January 11, 2018, 11:42 AM

Springfield Range Officer, or Colt Competition.
Either can be found for well under $1000.

Brownstone322 · January 11, 2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RickB

Springfield Range Officer, or Colt Competition.
Either can be found for well under $1000.

Second the Colt Competition. (Honorable mention to the Combat Commander and Lightweight Commander if the OP doesn't absolutely require stainless.)

HisSoldier · January 11, 2018, 04:40 PM

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Look at Springfield Armory. I would suggest Rock Island, but I think theirs are nickel plated rather than stainless.

And this I don't understand, 416 stainless is wonderfully machinable, and the market lusts after SS. Huge demand.

Also, after saying they were making a small 1911 in .380 complete with a locked breech they shove a blowback into the market, Come on RIA, you have many tens of thousands of loyal fans, if Colt and Sig can give us a locked breech why not you too? Even my old Llama's all run great, it can't be that tough.

**Aguila Blanca** · January 11, 2018, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HisSoldier

Also, after saying they were making a small 1911 in .380 complete with a locked breech they shove a blowback into the market, Come on RIA, you have many tens of thousands of loyal fans, if Colt and Sig can give us a locked breech why not you too? Even my old Llama's all run great, it can't be that tough.

I happen to agree with you, the "Baby Rock" is not a 1911 and calling it that 'til the cows come home won't make it into one. But, since you mentioned Llama, you must be aware that the Baby Rock is a direct copy of the Llama Micromax 380.

https://ezine.m1911.org/showthread.p...ock-380-Review

WC145 · January 11, 2018, 08:51 PM

Check out the S&W 9mm 1911 Pro Series. I had one and it was very good gun, fast and accurate, never had a bit of trouble with it. Should be able to find one in your price range.

KyJim · January 12, 2018, 01:39 AM

If you will be satisfied with a 1911ish pistol and don't mind buying used, there are a large number of Star BMs out there right now in 9mm at attractive prices. I believe J&G, Aim Surplus, and Bud's Gunshop have them. Others probably do, too. I just picked one up today. I haven't shot it yet but I have shot one of its bigger siblings, the Star Model B Super. It's a good shooting pistol and I'm sure the BM will be, too.

Charlie98 · January 12, 2018, 09:27 AM

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Thanks for the ideals all. Why not a Kimber? Had them and just looking to expand my ownership experience. Truthfully I think they are overpriced but I am also known to be too frugal....

In my case, the sum of the parts was greater than the whole... I spent what I thought was an enormous amount on my Kimber ($1100, back in 2002) but the pistol has proven to be fantastic and well worth the money.

On the other hand... I bought a Taurus PT1911 as a project pistol for $400. Forged parts, stainless barrel... it looked pretty good. I found you get what you pay for.... the Taurus was not greater than the sum of it's parts... it really was barely worth $400.

rodfac · January 12, 2018, 10:02 AM

Ruger makes a good 1911 and their offering in 9mm with an alloy frame and Novak sights makes up for a good CC gun. Reports are positive in this and other forums. While a totally SS 1911 appeals to some, the weight makes all day carry a real chore, and in 9mm, the reduction in recoil really isn't necessary. But if you're looking for a range gun or one that'll be used in defensive pistol games (ie. multiple thousands of rounds per year), maybe a SS model makes more sense.

I own both of their .45 ACP SS 1911's (the 5" model and the CMD) and both compare favorably with my Colts. Accuracy and reliability is all I could ask for, nearly 100% for several thousand rounds and both will send WWB 230 FMJ's into 2" gps at 25 yds from a rest.

HTH's Rod

BillM · January 12, 2018, 10:38 AM

A little more money that your limit, but if you watch sales/coupons you can come
REALLY close:

Dan Wesson PM-9.

railroader · January 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

Another option is a Sig traditional match elite in 9mm. I have one it runs really well. The trigger was just ok when I got so I put in a kimber hammer and sear. I also installed a fiber optic front sight and magwell. They run around ,$950 to $1000. Here's mine.

223 shooter · January 14, 2018, 11:23 AM

I would also check out a Springfield Range Officer. I have one in 45 and it is probably the most accurate out of box semi auto centerfire I have owned. I may end up with a 9mm version later this year if all goes well.

January 10, 2018, 10:53 PM	#1
Beentown71 Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,560	1911 help I am looking to get a stainless 1911 in 9mm. Something like the Kimber Pro Raptor II. I want something other than the Kimber. I find others I like but they get REALLY pricey. So what other companies should I look into? Would really like to stay under $1200. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

January 10, 2018, 11:17 PM	#3
Charlie98 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2006 Location: Great state of Texas Posts: 1,077	Why do you not want a Kimber? __________________ _______________ "I have this pistol pointed at your heart!" "That is my least vulnerable spot."

January 10, 2018, 11:25 PM	#6
L-2 Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2004 Location: Nevada Posts: 522	https://www.ruger.com/products/sr191...eets/6722.html I'm hearing good things regarding this Ruger. I only have its .45 ACP 4.25" version, however, and don't have any 9mm 1911 guns. __________________ (former) Glock Armorer 1911 Armorer LEO (retired)

January 11, 2018, 01:28 AM	#9
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,091	I don't know Beentown, if you want something like a Pro Raptor, why not buy a Pro Raptor? Is it price, reports of breakage or functional problems? I haven't owned that particular model, but have owned three 9MM Kimbers, and one 38 Super Kimber set up as 9MM also. The one thing they all had in common was functional reliability. This, without having to adjust, tune, tinker with or polish anything. Even the Kimber I set up for both 38 Super and 9MM works in either caliber with boring reliability. And other than one cracked magazine, probably 15+ years ago, nothing has ever broken on a Kimber I've owned. Undoubtedly, plenty of 1911 type 9MMs available within your budget, I've owned some of them myself. Just wish they'd all worked as well as the much maligned Kimbers........ __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life

January 11, 2018, 08:32 AM	#10
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,623	Deleted, Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73. Last edited by rodfac; January 12, 2018 at 11:58 AM.

January 10, 2018, 11:09 PM	#2
jmhyer Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2012 Location: MS - USA Posts: 899	Love my Springfield Armory 1911... http://www.springfield-armory.com/pr...5-acp/#PX9151L

January 10, 2018, 11:21 PM	#4
Viper225 Senior Member Join Date: September 20, 2009 Location: SC Missouri Posts: 663	Google Buy Springfield Armory 1911 9mm then check out Gun Broker listings. I just took a look and found a Stainless Steel Range Officer in 9mm for $899.99 "Buy Now price" and it was NEW. I prefer Springfield Armory over Kimber myself. Bob R

January 10, 2018, 11:24 PM	#5
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,460	Look at Springfield Armory. I would suggest Rock Island, but I think theirs are nickel plated rather than stainless. You could also check Metro Arms (American Classic), and Shooters Arms manufacturing to see if they have a 9mm in their lineup. And, of course, there's Colt: https://www.colt.com/Portals/0/Specs/2017/o1072CCS.pdf The Colt is within your price range, and I doubt you'll find a better 1911 at anywhere near that price.

January 10, 2018, 11:49 PM	#7
Rangerrich99 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Location: Kinda near Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,254	I picked up the Ruger 1911 in 9mm a little over a year ago and like it a lot, for what it is. It's simply a stainless no-frills 1911 that has been pretty reliable, a little picky about mags, with a decent 1911 trigger (a little more pre-travel than I'd like, but acceptable), and good accuracy out to 25 yards (as far as I've shot at anything with it). It would be nice if it had front strap checkering, night sights, and a couple other details that my more expensive 1911s have, but considering that I bought it for less than $650, I really can't complain. The trigger is surprisingly clean-breaking, and it feels like it has about a 5 lb. pull. In fact, in spite of its lack of doohickeys and mods, it's my favorite 9mm pistol; it's just the most fun to shoot and it is more accurate than any of my other 9s, slow or fast fire. My only real wish is that it came with 13-14 rd mags; 9-10 is just not enough fun! I wish I could give you more options for you, but I'm just not that familiar with all the SS 9mm 1911s out there. Good luck in your search.

January 11, 2018, 12:32 AM	#8
Cirdan Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2013 Location: Tahoe Posts: 363	I have the SR1911 in stainless. Commander sized. I like it, a lot, but admit I'm not a 1911 fanboy.

January 11, 2018, 11:12 AM	#11
Beentown71 Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,560	Thanks for the ideals all. Why not a Kimber? Had them and just looking to expand my ownership experience. Truthfully I think they are overpriced but I am also known to be too frugal.... Thanks again! Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

January 11, 2018, 11:42 AM	#12
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	Springfield Range Officer, or Colt Competition. Either can be found for well under $1000. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.

January 11, 2018, 08:51 PM	#16
WC145 Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2008 Location: Downeast Maine Posts: 1,836	Check out the S&W 9mm 1911 Pro Series. I had one and it was very good gun, fast and accurate, never had a bit of trouble with it. Should be able to find one in your price range. __________________ "If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge or jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim." - LtCol Jeff Cooper

January 12, 2018, 01:39 AM	#17
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	If you will be satisfied with a 1911ish pistol and don't mind buying used, there are a large number of Star BMs out there right now in 9mm at attractive prices. I believe J&G, Aim Surplus, and Bud's Gunshop have them. Others probably do, too. I just picked one up today. I haven't shot it yet but I have shot one of its bigger siblings, the Star Model B Super. It's a good shooting pistol and I'm sure the BM will be, too.

January 12, 2018, 10:02 AM	#19
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,623	Ruger makes a good 1911 and their offering in 9mm with an alloy frame and Novak sights makes up for a good CC gun. Reports are positive in this and other forums. While a totally SS 1911 appeals to some, the weight makes all day carry a real chore, and in 9mm, the reduction in recoil really isn't necessary. But if you're looking for a range gun or one that'll be used in defensive pistol games (ie. multiple thousands of rounds per year), maybe a SS model makes more sense. I own both of their .45 ACP SS 1911's (the 5" model and the CMD) and both compare favorably with my Colts. Accuracy and reliability is all I could ask for, nearly 100% for several thousand rounds and both will send WWB 230 FMJ's into 2" gps at 25 yds from a rest. HTH's Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.

January 12, 2018, 10:38 AM	#20
BillM Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Location: Amity Oregon Posts: 791	A little more money that your limit, but if you watch sales/coupons you can come REALLY close: Dan Wesson PM-9.

January 14, 2018, 10:47 AM	#21
railroader Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2000 Location: Tucson Arizona Posts: 1,756	Another option is a Sig traditional match elite in 9mm. I have one it runs really well. The trigger was just ok when I got so I put in a kimber hammer and sear. I also installed a fiber optic front sight and magwell. They run around ,$950 to $1000. Here's mine.

January 14, 2018, 11:23 AM	#22
223 shooter Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2008 Posts: 557	I would also check out a Springfield Range Officer. I have one in 45 and it is probably the most accurate out of box semi auto centerfire I have owned. I may end up with a 9mm version later this year if all goes well.