Found a Rogak P-18 in the wild today!

veprdude · February 7, 2023, 05:46 PM

Found a Rogak P-18 in a local pawn shop today. For those unfamiliar with it, Forgotten Weapons did a special on it. It's basically an unlicensed Steyr GB copy.

They were asking 450 for it. Came with 2 mags. I thought about adding it to my "Odds and Ends" collection, but passed.

jetinteriorguy · February 7, 2023, 06:52 PM

I’d pass too, that’s about $449.00 too much.

44caliberkid · February 7, 2023, 10:25 PM

The Steyr made ones were OK. The Rogak made pistols are crap, paper weights.

Seven High · February 8, 2023, 09:52 AM

If you decide to buy it, request to test fire it first. I suspect you will change your mind.

**4V50 Gary** · February 8, 2023, 12:13 PM

I remember the SoF evaluation of that pistol. Final photo showed the author ready to toss it downrange.

Yes, I'm olde.

Miami_JBT · February 8, 2023, 06:30 PM

I'm into collecting odd stuff. I have a HK VP70Z, a first generation Sigma, a 1999 production HS2000, etc.... Heck, I just hunted down a Streamlight M4 for the SWVE Sigma series.

But a Rogak isn't what I'd buy.

bac1023 · February 11, 2023, 08:28 PM

Bad guns

Stick with the Steyr GB

JT-AR-MG42 · February 12, 2023, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Stick with the Steyr GB

You got that right.
Mine has always been flawless in operation.

JT

veprdude · March 27, 2023, 01:00 AM

Update: Went back and someone had put it on layaway at the asking price.

Skans · March 27, 2023, 03:14 PM

I own a Steyr GB and have always wanted a Rogak, but only if I could find out dirt-cheap. The only reason I want the Rogak is to be able to take it apart and see for myself what exactly they got wrong in the manufacturing process, and what it would take to get it to shoot reliably. Also, it has an interesting bit of history.

So, I'm not against someone buying a Rogak, but it's got to be for the right reason.

micromontenegro · March 30, 2023, 01:25 PM

I remember the ads in the magazines back then: "Baker's dozen and a half"

bac1023 · March 30, 2023, 06:30 PM

Those are garbage

Get the real deal

tdrizzle · March 30, 2023, 11:08 PM

Saw one in the Mountain of Geese gun room in a nearby suburb a few years ago. I can say I saw one; but would never buy it.

Like the others say here, save your dinero for a GB.

Fun to look, though.

Forte S+W · April 8, 2023, 08:52 AM

I remember watching that Forgotten Weapons video...

It's basically an American Made Stainless Steel Styr GB, except that the fit and finish was so abysmal that many examples were completely disfunctional or otherwise unsafe to shoot.

That being said, I would buy one for the right place, as they're kind of collectible, or at least a cool conversation piece.

Lavan · April 8, 2023, 02:42 PM

I saw the first ones. I believe that they had pieces of screen in the slide to provide some delay in operation.
Cheapest crap I had seen

Almost comical.

veprdude · April 18, 2023, 11:31 PM

Update: It's back on the shelf. LOL. $530.00 price tag. I'm dying.

February 7, 2023, 05:46 PM	#1
veprdude Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 430	Found a Rogak P-18 in the wild today! Found a Rogak P-18 in a local pawn shop today. For those unfamiliar with it, Forgotten Weapons did a special on it. It's basically an unlicensed Steyr GB copy. They were asking 450 for it. Came with 2 mags. I thought about adding it to my "Odds and Ends" collection, but passed.

February 8, 2023, 12:13 PM	#5
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	I remember the SoF evaluation of that pistol. Final photo showed the author ready to toss it downrange. Yes, I'm olde. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

February 8, 2023, 06:30 PM	#6
Miami_JBT Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2009 Location: Miami-Dade County FL Posts: 191	I'm into collecting odd stuff. I have a HK VP70Z, a first generation Sigma, a 1999 production HS2000, etc.... Heck, I just hunted down a Streamlight M4 for the SWVE Sigma series. But a Rogak isn't what I'd buy. __________________ FL GOA State Director

April 8, 2023, 08:52 AM	#14
Forte S+W Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2019 Posts: 819	I remember watching that Forgotten Weapons video... It's basically an American Made Stainless Steel Styr GB, except that the fit and finish was so abysmal that many examples were completely disfunctional or otherwise unsafe to shoot. That being said, I would buy one for the right place, as they're kind of collectible, or at least a cool conversation piece. __________________ Conspiracy theorists are the greatest political spin-doctors of all time. Only they can make the absolute worst political blunders sound like spectacular feats of ingenuity.

February 7, 2023, 06:52 PM	#2
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,176	I’d pass too, that’s about $449.00 too much.

February 7, 2023, 10:25 PM	#3
44caliberkid Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2017 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,104	The Steyr made ones were OK. The Rogak made pistols are crap, paper weights.

February 8, 2023, 09:52 AM	#4
Seven High Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Posts: 650	If you decide to buy it, request to test fire it first. I suspect you will change your mind.

February 11, 2023, 08:28 PM	#7
bac1023 Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2008 Posts: 1,107	Bad guns Stick with the Steyr GB

March 27, 2023, 01:00 AM	#9
veprdude Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 430	Update: Went back and someone had put it on layaway at the asking price.

March 27, 2023, 03:14 PM	#10
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I own a Steyr GB and have always wanted a Rogak, but only if I could find out dirt-cheap. The only reason I want the Rogak is to be able to take it apart and see for myself what exactly they got wrong in the manufacturing process, and what it would take to get it to shoot reliably. Also, it has an interesting bit of history. So, I'm not against someone buying a Rogak, but it's got to be for the right reason.

March 30, 2023, 01:25 PM	#11
micromontenegro Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2010 Posts: 647	I remember the ads in the magazines back then: "Baker's dozen and a half"

March 30, 2023, 06:30 PM	#12
bac1023 Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2008 Posts: 1,107	Those are garbage Get the real deal

March 30, 2023, 11:08 PM	#13
tdrizzle Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2007 Location: St Paul Posts: 209	Saw one in the Mountain of Geese gun room in a nearby suburb a few years ago. I can say I saw one; but would never buy it. Like the others say here, save your dinero for a GB. Fun to look, though.

April 8, 2023, 02:42 PM	#15
Lavan Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 1999 Location: California Posts: 2,716	I saw the first ones. I believe that they had pieces of screen in the slide to provide some delay in operation. Cheapest crap I had seen Almost comical.

April 18, 2023, 11:31 PM	#16
veprdude Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 430	Update: It's back on the shelf. LOL. $530.00 price tag. I'm dying.