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December 11, 2007, 02:30 AM | #1 |
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Warning! Guns in Pocket Unholstered
Tonight while walking and ccwing a snub in pocket-holster in front parka-jacket pocket, I took a real nasty fall on the sidewalk, I had the time before hitting to try to role away from gun side and - no matter what - get the right arm out to break the fall. This was not successful, and I landed on top of the gun and landed hard. No problem as it was in a pocket holster, but it made me quickly toss an occasional thought I was entertaining of carrying a Glock "bare" (unholstered) in the same way.
Anyway, for those folks who carry without a holster, better allow for the unexpected and be comfortable with that or find a pocket holster. My view anyway....'specially with winter footing. |
December 11, 2007, 02:33 AM | #2 |
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yeah you should always have a holster even for a pocket gun
some places its required |
December 11, 2007, 03:26 AM | #3 |
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I always carry my guns in a holster not so much so that the gun won't go off, but to protect the gun itself. Pocket lint, dirt, and sweat aren't nice to your guns. Of course, I also take the extra precaution and all of my holsters completely cover my trigger guard. I carry a Glock, and although I never worry about accidental discharges because the 5.5 lb trigger must be pulled from the center to get through the trigger safety, I don't like an uncovered trigger guard when I go to draw.
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December 11, 2007, 06:51 PM | #4 |
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Anyone who's stupid enough to carry an unholstered GLOCK in their pocket with a chambered round... well, they really shouldn't be reproducing anyway.
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December 11, 2007, 06:57 PM | #5 |
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That is one reason why I won't even contemplate small-of-back carry. Of course, having had spinal fusion surgery, I might be a bit over-protective of my back...
And yes, I always use a pocket holster for pocket carry. The DeSantis Nemesis designed for a G-26 fits a variety of pocket-friendly pistols nicely--j-frame, Kahr PM9, Kahr P45, 3" Kimber 1911, Springfield EMP...now that's a lot of versatility for $15. |
December 11, 2007, 06:58 PM | #6 |
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I would never pocket carry my Glock, pocket holster or not. If I have a round chambered, I want it in a good holster with the trigger covered.
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December 11, 2007, 07:25 PM | #7 |
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You fell with a snub revolver in your pocket, what does carrying a Glock with out one have anything to do with it or is it just another Glock bash?
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December 11, 2007, 07:41 PM | #8 |
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He said it made him reconsider carrying a glock without a holster. So that means he thought about it and then thought better of it.
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December 12, 2007, 03:56 AM | #9 |
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Clipdraw & Glcok?
Yes, I have a Glock which does fit in pocket, and before the fall I had decided to try it. But, realized it's better to have any gun in a holster with trigger guard (like my snub pocket-holster) if it's in a pocket, gives you an added safety + protection for the gun itself from scrapes, etc during a fall.
I did have one question though about my Glock 37 (that's the .45 GAP full-size, though in this case full-size is close to the 9mm size): I bought and am awaiting a Clipdraw. This is for IWB carry, not pocket, nonetheless there would be no holster, just the clip and the gun itself IWB. I do have a Saf-t-Block, an aftermarket fitted plastic insert that friction holds behind the trigger, thus making trigger inoperable until Bloc is pushed out, or "sprung out" by large button on the shooting hand side of the Bloc - springs a yard away in less than half a second. If the spring ever failed, a push from the trigger finger would, as quick, clear it. Move the trigger finger up a hair onto trigger and you're ready to shoot. I would have that on the gun if the clip were used, since it functions as a type of trigger guard, and protects from any clothing in the waistband getting tangled in the trigger, (highly unlikely but still...) Any thoughts about this unholstered way to carry? Or any used the Clipdraw? |
December 12, 2007, 07:42 PM | #10 |
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I use a clipdraw on my SP101 and the factory clip for my P11. Both have long/hard pulls.
I think the Glock + clipdraw + Saf-t-block would be fine provided it works properly. Wouldn't even consider carrying it sans the block. |
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Carrying a Glock unholstered is asking for a Darwin Award. Your eulogy will be a feature on Fark.com after you put one through your femoral artery.
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From the Fox website, http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,306719,00.html
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Oh, and um. If you do decide to carry in a pocket without a holster, at least don't dump your car keys into the same pocket. Quote:
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December 13, 2007, 09:24 PM | #17 |
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What stephen426 doesn't realize is that every one of those people who did shoot themselves felt the same way.
Then one day, a coin slips in there, something falls out of the wallet, who knows. Oh well. All we can do here is hope that when it happens to him, it doesn't hit anyone else! |
December 13, 2007, 10:28 PM | #18 |
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Given the availabilty, cost, and benefits of pocket holsters, there really isn't much of an argument for NOT using them.
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They are readily available in my area. I can afford it. My problem with them is that while there are benefits, there are also reasons not to use them. Bulk and speed of draw are the main issues. As I mentioned, I use care when inserting my gun into my belt and I do the same when I pocket carry. Holsters often have hooks or straps that give away the fact you are carrying. They also add a fair amount of bulk. If you guys can list some very thin holsters that don't have hooks or straps that give away your concealment, I'm not opposed. I just haven't found anything that fits the bill yet.
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With regards to speed of the draw that is a silly argument. As far as bulk, yes, you may get added bulk but a gun is already bulky in most cases. I carry a S&W 642 concealed every day in dress slacks or khakis. The bulge in my pocket looks like a Blackberry. I use a Bob Mika pocket holster that breaks up the outline of my gun and it does not have straps. |
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I cannot even imagine carrying a double stack Glock and a wallet in the same pocket.... |
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Holsters are mandatory for CCW in Georgia.
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And my P32 is always in an Uncle Mike's #1 in my back pocket. Scares me to think about nothing protecting the trigger on any pocket gun. Cripes, my panic alarm from my key fob is going off quite a bit just because a crease in my pants sets it off.
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For what its worth, I am really a creature of habit and I carry everything I carry in the same place. Wallet in the right front pocket, Keys and any change in my left front pocket, a business card holder/receipt holder in my right back pocket, and when I carry my flashlight, its in my left back pocket. I carry my phone in a phone holster at the 1 o'clock position and my knife clipped to my waistband behind it. If I carry a PDA, its clipped at 9 o'clock. I know it seems kind of anal retentive, but I can just grab whatever I need without thinking about it and without looking. I leave everything I carry in one place and I rarely ever forget to bring something I need. It also saves me a hell of a lot of time in the morning since I don't have to play hide and go seek with my stuff.
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