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Old March 16, 2019, 05:47 PM   #1
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1861 Colt black powder muzzle loader rifle

1861 Colt black powder muzzle loader rifle. Found one of these at a local show today. It "intrigues" me. I have several "smoke poles" in my arsenal already. I know it is a reproduction, but looks unfired. Asking was $650 w/o bayonet. Any inputs welcomed.
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Old March 16, 2019, 06:00 PM   #2
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Old March 16, 2019, 06:12 PM   #3
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Having a tough time copy and pasting. Here is a link to a similar Colt on Gunbroker. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/80374...odal-view-item.
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Old March 16, 2019, 07:18 PM   #4
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Colt's Special (Contract) Model of the `61 Springfield/Enfield.
http://www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-ga...le-musket.aspx
One of the best of it's kind.

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Old March 16, 2019, 08:22 PM   #5
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I'd take that over an import. Remember the Colt was neither a pure 1861 nor an Enfield. It was authorized by the War Department though and this is a repro of that smokepole.
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Old March 17, 2019, 04:50 AM   #6
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Just a clarification, these rifle muskets were not actually made by Colt. The parts were made in Italy by one of the major Italian repro manufacturers and assembled in the US.
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Old March 17, 2019, 09:21 AM   #7
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1861 Colt black powder muzzle loader rifle. Found one of these at a local show today.
OP: Who made/assembled it ?
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Old March 17, 2019, 05:48 PM   #8
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mehavey. Gave it a second look today and declined the purchase. Price was UP to $675. Could find no maker. Maybe it's under the barrel and above the stock. With no accessories and well fired condition I kept my Benjamins in my pocket. I have no idea where I would have used it anyway. But, like a crow, I am attracted to shiny things.
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Old March 17, 2019, 06:13 PM   #9
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If no indicated maker (and not an original), your passing was a wise choice.
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Old March 17, 2019, 09:31 PM   #10
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Just a clarification, these rifle muskets were not actually made by Colt. The parts were made in Italy by one of the major Italian repro manufacturers and assembled in the US.
It's my understanding they were fully made in Italy and distributed by the Colt Black Powder Arms Co. They were made under license from Colt but Colt had nothing to do with the manufacture or sale of them. They merely sold the rights to use their name and logo.
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Old March 18, 2019, 03:54 AM   #11
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It's my understanding they were fully made in Italy and distributed by the Colt Black Powder Arms Co. They were made under license from Colt but Colt had nothing to do with the manufacture or sale of them. They merely sold the rights to use their name and logo.
That is possible Hawg, I have no hard information, just what I have heard through the NSSA. The parts at least are made in Italy though, and assembly there as well makes sense.
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