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Old August 28, 2007, 08:15 AM   #1
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Need suggestion for 9mm (Newbie)

I'm looking for auto 9mm. Mostly, I'll keep it at home. I've been reading lot of articles, but i need more comments from professional. I like light weight, safe, and not expensive.
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Old August 28, 2007, 08:59 AM   #2
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Wow - that's a broad field you've described. There are over 100 different 9mm options to choose from. I'll answer to your "not expensive" parameter but what might be expensive to you may not be to another. Try the Stoeger Cougar 8000. A great value for the money (around $350.)

For more responses, try being more specific in your requirements. (IE: specific weight requirements, specific price range, compact or full size, capacity, features, ease of takedown, etc.)
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Old August 28, 2007, 09:21 AM   #3
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There are plenty of good 9mm pistols around and you should try to rent and shoot as many as you can before you decide. Don't worry about other people's opinions so much. You have to find a gun that fits you. Go with what fits your hand best and has a proven record of reliability. In case you do decide to carry it, get it in a size and weight that you can comfortably conceal it in different ways (OWB, IWB, ankle, etc) all day long if necessary with different styles of clothing.

When I started looking for a pistol, I wanted the most reliable brand name I could find. I looked around at what brands police and military agencies carried. I figured that if the police and military agencies trusted their lives to these brands, they would be good enough for me. I figured that those companies have a big reputation on the line and if something is wrong with my gun, they might be more willing to fix it than others. I wanted a gun that would be simple in design and easy to fix.

I looked for a popular brand name so I could easily find parts or holsters for my gun. These things should be inexpensive and easy to find anywhere. Not all brands are like this.

I don't know what your budget is, but I wouldn't go much over $500. You can find some of the most reliable guns in the world in this price range and they are used by military and police agencies all over the world. You can spend a lot more, but you won't really gain anything except bragging rights.

Last of all, if you decide to carry it get some good training. Simply having a gun does not make you safer.

Hope this helps!
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Old August 28, 2007, 09:25 AM   #4
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Yes, that is a bit of a general question Next Step.

Light Weight. Polymer (plastic) and Alloy framed Handguns are lighter than all steel framed pistols.

Safe. That kinda depends on you as much as the gun itself.

Not Expensive. What do you consider allot? $200.00? $500.00?
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Old August 28, 2007, 09:26 AM   #5
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Read the archives. This has been asked a thousand times. Pick one you like. In five years, one of two things will happen; 1 - You lose interest. 2 - You'll own about eight 9mm's and be a senior member here, telling people who ask this question the same thing I just did.
Everyone likes "non-expensive", but it's a relative term. Is an XD expensive? A Glock? A Sig? Moreso than a Taurus, but only you can tell if you like it, and only after putting some rounds through it. Some will tell you to borrow one. Maybe that'll be enough for you.
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Old August 28, 2007, 10:17 AM   #6
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Thanks for your opinion. I wish I can give more detail, but I can't. The reason is that 1. I can't test any new pistols because in my area there are only some robust pistols and those are for training. All I know is from magazine and www. 2. I can't range the price because the price in my area is marked up by distributors and it's depended on model. For example CZ sp01 in my country is about $US2,400 and G19 is about $US1,800.
That's why I'd like to hear from you guys.
I'm thinking about G19 9mm, and HK USP 9mm. Are those fine? or any suggestion?
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Old August 28, 2007, 10:27 AM   #7
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If the HK pistols aren't out of reach money-wise, I recommend the P2000 with the LEM trigger. It is a compact easy to shoot gun. I really enjoy shooting mine. I believe that HK and SIGs seem to be made really well. There are other pistols that probably function just as well, like the the Glocks and S&W MP9, but they don't seem to have the same craftmanship in their design (i.e. look a lot more like cheap plastic). If you are looking for less expensive, but very utilitarian 9mm pistol, look at Glock and S&W M&P. There are others I am not mentioning, like the Springfield Arms XD or Beretta Storm, etc, but I don't have as much experience with them. Anyway, good luck.
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Old August 28, 2007, 10:37 AM   #8
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Old August 28, 2007, 11:22 AM   #9
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Where are you?

$1800.00 for a G19 is something like 4X the cost of what you can get on the net.
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Old August 28, 2007, 01:37 PM   #10
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I did not see where Next Step is from.
Prices ,he says, are in "His country"....
begs the question, WHERE are you, Next Step?
I suspect not in the US of A.
I am curious though. Must have strict laws about gun ownership there.
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Old August 28, 2007, 03:36 PM   #11
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Lightweight, inexpensive & reliable = Ruger P95. You can usually find them for well under $400. The Taurus 24/7 PRO is also a good choice and about the same money as the Ruger, at least in my area.
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I have a LNIB S&W Mod.59 w/ 3 magazines.
It's for sale @ $400.00. If interested contact me.......

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Old August 28, 2007, 06:49 PM   #13
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Everyone has their favorite guns and they'll all recommend their favorites. The best advice I can give you is go to your local gun store and shop around. Handle the guns. Narrow it down to 2-3 favorites - make sure that the gun fits YOU.

Don't let anyone tell you you should buy this brand or that brand or that model, etc. Everyone seems to be an expert these days and whatever gun they have is the best of the best - just ask them and they'll be glad to tell you.

After picking 2 or 3, go home and do some research. Look for feedback on those two to three guns online (here in this forum is a good place to start, BTW) to get reliability feedback.

If the gun is for self defense, get the largest caliber you can comfortably fire in a gun that is reliable that fits your hand comfortably.

Don't be afraid to ask the folks at the gun store questions either - they are there to help you.
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Old August 29, 2007, 12:19 AM   #15
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glock17. i got mine new for 500
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Old August 29, 2007, 12:26 AM   #16
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Despite my other post in this form, the 226 is still the nicest 9mm I've ever shot. If you buy one just look it over throughly to make sure the fit and finish of that particular example are good. So far both of my sigs (my 229 has close to 4000 rounds through it) have functioned flawlessly.
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Old August 29, 2007, 12:03 PM   #17
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Thanks for your offers, but i live in Thailand. And, I can buy only in my country due to regulation. In Thailand, we have some gun shops, but I think you guy have more experiences than some experts in Thailand.
Anyhow, I think visiting the gun shops and testing is the best way. I'm not sure how many brands that gun shops in in my area have. I'll tell you guys again. Thank you very much.
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Old August 29, 2007, 12:09 PM   #18
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CZ is, in this country, along with the EAA Witness from what I can gather, the best value in a 9mm. Seems everyone comes out of the woodwork with small groups, very small groups, that rival guns costing 4X's as much.

But, don't know what you'll pay over there, and, what the value is. It would help if you listed the prices for the guns you are considering, so perhaps those with a lot of experience with 9mm could list their choices by value.

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