Uberti. 45 colt loads

Curtis270 · January 1, 2017, 09:48 PM

I just recently picked up a taylor and co uberti .45 colt and had a few gift cards for gander mountain so I picked up a set of dies and the only swc 45s I could get from them which happens to be 200 grain and I'm gonna be getting some cci large pistol primers. I have some imr 4350 and some h380 powder can I use these to make up some loads or do I need to go out and get some titegroup or other powder?

mehavey · January 1, 2017, 11:35 PM

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imr 4350 and some h380 powder...

are medium/heavy rifle powders, and waaaay too slow for pistol use of any kind.

For a 200 grain/45Colt load, use any of these (and a good reloading manual):
Alliant BULLSEYE
Accurate No.2
Hodgdon Universal
Winchester 231
Hodgdon HP38
Hodgdon TiteGroup

Curtis270 · January 2, 2017, 08:19 AM

Rodger that thank you!

Real Gun · January 2, 2017, 12:13 PM

If those are actually 45 ACP bullets, I would wait. You should be looking for 250-255 grain with a crimp groove.

In standard 45 Colt, Trailboss sets the standard for me. To challenge my Blackhawk I use a stouter load of True Blue. My Uberto El Patron only gets the Trailboss, but that is near max and not a let's-play-cowboy load.

mehavey · January 2, 2017, 01:23 PM

Out of curiosity, what brand/style bullets did you (the OP) buy ?
(pic or webcite)

mikld · January 2, 2017, 01:24 PM

I too, would wait on using those bullets. First, they may be 200 LSWC for the 45 ACP (a good target bullet for my 1911s), and second, make sure your lever gun will feed SWC bullets (mine don't without "special" loading)...

mehavey · January 2, 2017, 01:45 PM

I did not see where the OP's firearm was a rifle (?) If so, forget what follows:

As to using a 200-gr LSWC, it will work fine as a light/medium load.
See http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloadi...-auto-rim.html
(and remember to apply crimp at/over the shoulder if it doesn't have a dedicated crimp groove)

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Curtis270 · January 2, 2017, 07:43 PM

I got them from gander mountain http://m.gandermountain.com/modperl/...0-Rds&i=412685 like I said I had a few gift cards so I just went a head and picked them up. It's a 1873 cattlemen. Thanks for the replies I appreciate it keep the knowledge coming

mehavey · January 2, 2017, 09:38 PM

Okaaaayyyy..... those are FULL wadcutters/hollowbase. (Ain't nuthin' :semi" about`em at all)

Gander Mtn ought to lock its neck up and back on that one.

You aren't going to find any load data for a Hollowbase/Full wadcutter for a 45 Colt in any manual that I know of. Were you in Virginia, I'd walk you through using a QuickLoad-derived calculation with a fully set-back 200gr SWC, but not unless I were setting it up first using a BlackHawk and a chronograph. (That hollow base makes even more interesting as load calcuations have to taken into account the increased powder-space volume over that of a solid projectile. This would make for an empirically-based/trial & error final load.

)

So NOW I'm going to agree w/ the other folks about waiting until you can get some standard 250gr "Cowboy" type bullets w/ crimp groove

See PM45-250 45 Long Colt 0.452 250GR $45.5
on this page https://secure25.securewebsession.co....com/order.htm

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Curtis270 · January 3, 2017, 07:06 PM

I'm just a little west of Virginia lol in WV. I hope that's just a generic picture and not the actual picture but if the bullets are what you say and the picture shows then I'll probably melt them down for sinkers or give them to someone who can. This bullets are a little steep for me but seem like nice bullets. Would these work https://www.midwayusa.com/product/20...ead-flat-nose?

Curtis270 · January 3, 2017, 07:10 PM

I picked up some titegroup today and some cci large pistol primers(hopefully these are right) I believe the bullets I ordered are the ones pictured on midways site but won't know till they get here as I said before I appreciate all the comments and knowledge because I am new to loading and don't want to blow up my new pistol. I've only loaded 270 and 300wsm up to this point and I always go by my nosler loading manual.

mehavey · January 3, 2017, 07:11 PM

Those are fine.

Curtis270 · January 3, 2017, 07:41 PM

Thanks for your help bud

ritepath · January 4, 2017, 06:06 PM

Just say no to the cowboy gun, get yerself a CZ75 in 9mm.

Curtis270 · January 5, 2017, 05:12 PM

Can't do that patsky. They bullets came in and they are flat base swc with kind of knurled sides I belive they are going to work looks like I'm gonna try 5 grains of titegroup first and work my way up to 7.5 max and see what feels/shoots the best

mehavey · January 5, 2017, 05:47 PM

Quote:

bullets came in and they are flat base swc with kind of knurled sides...

I had thought you got these the 2nd time around?
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/20...ead-flat-nose?

Curtis270 · January 5, 2017, 06:15 PM

No I was going to pick those up if these were full wad cutters with the hollow base like you had mentioned but they must have just had a generic picture up

January 1, 2017, 09:48 PM	#1
Curtis270 Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2017 Posts: 8	Uberti. 45 colt loads I just recently picked up a taylor and co uberti .45 colt and had a few gift cards for gander mountain so I picked up a set of dies and the only swc 45s I could get from them which happens to be 200 grain and I'm gonna be getting some cci large pistol primers. I have some imr 4350 and some h380 powder can I use these to make up some loads or do I need to go out and get some titegroup or other powder?

January 2, 2017, 12:13 PM	#4
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,743	If those are actually 45 ACP bullets, I would wait. You should be looking for 250-255 grain with a crimp groove. In standard 45 Colt, Trailboss sets the standard for me. To challenge my Blackhawk I use a stouter load of True Blue. My Uberto El Patron only gets the Trailboss, but that is near max and not a let's-play-cowboy load. __________________ Not an expert, just a reporter.

January 2, 2017, 01:24 PM	#6
mikld Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2009 Location: Southern Oregon! Posts: 2,891	I too, would wait on using those bullets. First, they may be 200 LSWC for the 45 ACP (a good target bullet for my 1911s), and second, make sure your lever gun will feed SWC bullets (mine don't without "special" loading)... __________________ My Anchor is holding fast! I've learned how to stand on my own two knees...

January 2, 2017, 01:45 PM	#7
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,896	I did not see where the OP's firearm was a rifle (?) If so, forget what follows: As to using a 200-gr LSWC, it will work fine as a light/medium load. See http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloadi...-auto-rim.html (and remember to apply crimp at/over the shoulder if it doesn't have a dedicated crimp groove) . Last edited by mehavey; January 2, 2017 at 04:17 PM.

January 2, 2017, 09:38 PM	#9
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,896	Okaaaayyyy..... those are FULL wadcutters/hollowbase. (Ain't nuthin' :semi" about`em at all) Gander Mtn ought to lock its neck up and back on that one. You aren't going to find any load data for a Hollowbase/Full wadcutter for a 45 Colt in any manual that I know of. Were you in Virginia, I'd walk you through using a QuickLoad-derived calculation with a fully set-back 200gr SWC, but not unless I were setting it up first using a BlackHawk and a chronograph. (That hollow base makes even more interesting as load calcuations have to taken into account the increased powder-space volume over that of a solid projectile. This would make for an empirically-based/trial & error final load. ) So NOW I'm going to agree w/ the other folks about waiting until you can get some standard 250gr "Cowboy" type bullets w/ crimp groove See PM45-250 45 Long Colt 0.452 250GR $45.5 on this page https://secure25.securewebsession.co....com/order.htm . Last edited by mehavey; January 2, 2017 at 09:55 PM.

January 2, 2017, 08:19 AM	#3
Curtis270 Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2017 Posts: 8	Rodger that thank you!

January 2, 2017, 01:23 PM	#5
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,896	Out of curiosity, what brand/style bullets did you (the OP) buy ? (pic or webcite)

January 2, 2017, 07:43 PM	#8
Curtis270 Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2017 Posts: 8	I got them from gander mountain http://m.gandermountain.com/modperl/...0-Rds&i=412685 like I said I had a few gift cards so I just went a head and picked them up. It's a 1873 cattlemen. Thanks for the replies I appreciate it keep the knowledge coming

January 3, 2017, 07:06 PM	#10
Curtis270 Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2017 Posts: 8	I'm just a little west of Virginia lol in WV. I hope that's just a generic picture and not the actual picture but if the bullets are what you say and the picture shows then I'll probably melt them down for sinkers or give them to someone who can. This bullets are a little steep for me but seem like nice bullets. Would these work https://www.midwayusa.com/product/20...ead-flat-nose?

January 3, 2017, 07:10 PM	#11
Curtis270 Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2017 Posts: 8	I picked up some titegroup today and some cci large pistol primers(hopefully these are right) I believe the bullets I ordered are the ones pictured on midways site but won't know till they get here as I said before I appreciate all the comments and knowledge because I am new to loading and don't want to blow up my new pistol. I've only loaded 270 and 300wsm up to this point and I always go by my nosler loading manual.

January 3, 2017, 07:11 PM	#12
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,896	Those are fine.

January 3, 2017, 07:41 PM	#13
Curtis270 Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2017 Posts: 8	Thanks for your help bud

January 4, 2017, 06:06 PM	#14
ritepath Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,419	Just say no to the cowboy gun, get yerself a CZ75 in 9mm. __________________ There's only one...

January 5, 2017, 05:12 PM	#15
Curtis270 Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2017 Posts: 8	Can't do that patsky. They bullets came in and they are flat base swc with kind of knurled sides I belive they are going to work looks like I'm gonna try 5 grains of titegroup first and work my way up to 7.5 max and see what feels/shoots the best

January 5, 2017, 06:15 PM	#17
Curtis270 Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2017 Posts: 8	No I was going to pick those up if these were full wad cutters with the hollow base like you had mentioned but they must have just had a generic picture up