Starr's 4 Barrel Derringer/ Help!

sheaman · July 22, 2002, 12:07 AM

Anyone have any info on a Starr's Pat's May 4 barrel .32 derringer...Bronze looking in mint condition that I recently received from Uncle....

Starr Arms I guess was better known for its Civil War Revolvers...This one says Pat's May 10 1864...

ALso says BKITLREDGE & Co Cin OH on it....Is this the seller/Reseller???

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Sheaman

Sons of Liberty Will Ride Again!!

Repost from Revolver forum

wine9er · July 22, 2002, 02:37 AM

Starr produced a "pepperbox"(rather than a Derringer) w/4 barrels. Great looking gun (pictures?) with fine finishing. tough to find comparisons since there were so few manufactured.

Jim Watson · July 22, 2002, 07:15 AM

Flayderman says there were about 2000 Starr .32 pepperboxes made in six different models. Value from $300 to $1100 depending on model and condition (the barrels were originally silver plated.) The fifth model is much the most common. Company went out of business in 1867.
Kitridge was a major big dealer in those days.

sheaman · July 22, 2002, 05:06 PM

I will have to see which one I own...Thanks for your help!

Sheaman

sheaman · July 23, 2002, 10:11 PM

Jim,

Have tried to locate source on these 5 models of the Starrs gun.

Cannot find a thing...do you have a resource on the 5 models? A book ref...or just a quick explanation of the differences?

Thanks

Jim Watson · July 24, 2002, 07:36 AM

Not being a collector, Flayderman's Guide To Antique American Firearms is all I have to go by. It has pictures and descriptions. Unfortunately, no dimensions, so to say that Models 1-4 had a "short, fat" grip (they differ in spring placement) and Models 5 & 6 had a "long, thin" grip (Model 6 has a "longer frame") does not help much without a picture or an example.
But he says 1500 out of the 2000 were of the 5th Model.
Oh, I had the finish backwards; the brass frame was silver plated when new, the barrels were blued.

sheaman · July 25, 2002, 11:56 AM

Just ordered Flayderman's from Amazon.....

I hope I got one of the good ones...Its in mint...Will report back this week.

Sheaman

July 22, 2002, 12:07 AM	#1
sheaman Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: San Jose Posts: 41	Starr's 4 Barrel Derringer/ Help! Anyone have any info on a Starr's Pat's May 4 barrel .32 derringer...Bronze looking in mint condition that I recently received from Uncle.... Starr Arms I guess was better known for its Civil War Revolvers...This one says Pat's May 10 1864... ALso says BKITLREDGE & Co Cin OH on it....Is this the seller/Reseller??? Any help would be greatly appreciated... Sheaman Sons of Liberty Will Ride Again!! Repost from Revolver forum

July 22, 2002, 02:37 AM	#2
wine9er Member Join Date: December 13, 2001 Location: ca. Posts: 44	Pictures? Starr produced a "pepperbox"(rather than a Derringer) w/4 barrels. Great looking gun (pictures?) with fine finishing. tough to find comparisons since there were so few manufactured. __________________ "An education is acquired, a man is self made"

July 22, 2002, 05:06 PM	#4
sheaman Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: San Jose Posts: 41	Thanks Jim I will have to see which one I own...Thanks for your help! Sheaman

July 23, 2002, 10:11 PM	#5
sheaman Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: San Jose Posts: 41	Jim...? Question Jim, Have tried to locate source on these 5 models of the Starrs gun. Cannot find a thing...do you have a resource on the 5 models? A book ref...or just a quick explanation of the differences? Thanks

July 25, 2002, 11:56 AM	#7
sheaman Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: San Jose Posts: 41	Jim Thanks Just ordered Flayderman's from Amazon..... I hope I got one of the good ones...Its in mint...Will report back this week. Sheaman

July 22, 2002, 07:15 AM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,542	Flayderman says there were about 2000 Starr .32 pepperboxes made in six different models. Value from $300 to $1100 depending on model and condition (the barrels were originally silver plated.) The fifth model is much the most common. Company went out of business in 1867. Kitridge was a major big dealer in those days.

July 24, 2002, 07:36 AM	#6
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,542	Not being a collector, Flayderman's Guide To Antique American Firearms is all I have to go by. It has pictures and descriptions. Unfortunately, no dimensions, so to say that Models 1-4 had a "short, fat" grip (they differ in spring placement) and Models 5 & 6 had a "long, thin" grip (Model 6 has a "longer frame") does not help much without a picture or an example. But he says 1500 out of the 2000 were of the 5th Model. Oh, I had the finish backwards; the brass frame was silver plated when new, the barrels were blued.