Best non +P 9mms for a short barrel (Sig 365) for SD - Page 2

Cheapshooter · February 6, 2019, 01:09 PM

A little food for thought as they say.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VfWkWMzOI

SRH78 · February 6, 2019, 10:28 PM

Once I decided to get my 365, I checked a lot of short barrel 9mm tests and the round that consistently performs extremely well is the 124 grain HST. There are a lot of great 9mm hollow points but most just don't expand that reliably against heavy clothing from a short barrel, particularly in non +p.

Red Devil · February 10, 2019, 07:17 PM

For the 3" SIG P938:

Standard Pressure 9mm:
- Winchester Ranger-T Series - 147 gr.
- luckygunner.com

- Federal HST 147 gr.
- luckygunner.com

- 147 grain Subsonic.
- Optimal penetration and expansion.
- Same muzzle energy as the 115 gr. Sig V-Crown.
- 15-20% less muzzle energy then the 124 gr. (making them easier to shoot well out of a micro.)

...and good hits count more.

Red

Carl the Floor Walker · February 11, 2019, 07:01 PM

ARX PlusP

Ruger ARX 9mm +P Ammunition Test and Review

http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/search?q=lcr+9mm

Note* also very mild to shoot, and can train with same round

Nanuk · February 11, 2019, 07:09 PM

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The downside is the bullet shape which may not be the best if you wind up in court defending yourself. I am old and value performance over being killed by a carjacker and winding up in court.

PLEASE........

74A95 · February 11, 2019, 07:56 PM

Sig makes ammo for this pistol: https://www.shootingillustrated.com/...ce-ammunition/

rodfac · February 13, 2019, 07:57 AM

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"Find out what your local LE uses and assuming it feeds in your gun, carry that ammo"

Pretty solid advice...it's what we do.

But I'll add: I reload all of our practice ammunition to the same recoil impulse judged by feel and the gun's reaction to it. Impact points vary less than an inch at 10 yds. Saves money and encourages practice, where the boutique rounds carried by LEO's are too expensive to practice with. YMMV, Rod

CharlieSW · February 14, 2019, 11:41 PM

My personal P365 likes the Golden Saber 147gr. LE ammo -- softer shooting than the 124+p, reliable and very accurate.

Blade37db · February 15, 2019, 11:15 AM

Just an update on this. I did run about 30 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P (regular - not the Short Barrel) and my 365 handled it very well. As good as the Shield I once had. As some have said, shoots like a bigger gun.

I'm not sure if the standard GD +P is optimized when shooting out of a shorter barreled gun (like the short barrel version or HSTs), but at least I know it worked and was manageable.

Mackie244Bud · February 15, 2019, 09:45 PM

AmmoQuest Gold Dot Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjRcV0eTohs

Blade37db · February 15, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mackie244Bud

AmmoQuest Gold Dot Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjRcV0eTohs

Thank you. That was great info

ROCK6 · February 17, 2019, 10:45 PM

This is good info. I'll pick up my P365 when I get home in May. I think I most of my HST and Gold Dot is 124+P; never considered 147gr out of a short barrel pistol before. While I do almost all my training with FMC, I do practice with my carry gun and ammo at every range session...simply five rounds with four different drills, starting cold from the concealed position. This helps me cycle through my carry ammo, but not so much that it's cost-prohibitive.

ROCK6

February 6, 2019, 01:09 PM	#26
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	A little food for thought as they say. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VfWkWMzOI __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

February 6, 2019, 10:28 PM	#27
SRH78 Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 517	Once I decided to get my 365, I checked a lot of short barrel 9mm tests and the round that consistently performs extremely well is the 124 grain HST. There are a lot of great 9mm hollow points but most just don't expand that reliably against heavy clothing from a short barrel, particularly in non +p. __________________ "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

February 10, 2019, 07:17 PM	#28
Red Devil Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2010 Posts: 274	For the 3" SIG P938: Standard Pressure 9mm: - Winchester Ranger-T Series - 147 gr. - luckygunner.com - Federal HST 147 gr. - luckygunner.com - 147 grain Subsonic. - Optimal penetration and expansion. - Same muzzle energy as the 115 gr. Sig V-Crown. - 15-20% less muzzle energy then the 124 gr. (making them easier to shoot well out of a micro.) ...and good hits count more. Red Last edited by Red Devil; February 12, 2019 at 10:27 AM.

February 11, 2019, 07:01 PM	#29
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	ARX PlusP Ruger ARX 9mm +P Ammunition Test and Review http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/search?q=lcr+9mm Note* also very mild to shoot, and can train with same round

February 11, 2019, 07:56 PM	#31
74A95 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2016 Posts: 1,568	Sig makes ammo for this pistol: https://www.shootingillustrated.com/...ce-ammunition/

February 14, 2019, 11:41 PM	#33
CharlieSW Junior Member Join Date: May 30, 2011 Posts: 11	My personal P365 likes the Golden Saber 147gr. LE ammo -- softer shooting than the 124+p, reliable and very accurate.

February 15, 2019, 11:15 AM	#34
Blade37db Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2005 Posts: 282	Just an update on this. I did run about 30 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P (regular - not the Short Barrel) and my 365 handled it very well. As good as the Shield I once had. As some have said, shoots like a bigger gun. I'm not sure if the standard GD +P is optimized when shooting out of a shorter barreled gun (like the short barrel version or HSTs), but at least I know it worked and was manageable.

February 15, 2019, 09:45 PM	#35
Mackie244Bud Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 252	AmmoQuest Gold Dot Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjRcV0eTohs

February 17, 2019, 10:45 PM	#37
ROCK6 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2004 Location: Georgia/Afghanistan Posts: 314	This is good info. I'll pick up my P365 when I get home in May. I think I most of my HST and Gold Dot is 124+P; never considered 147gr out of a short barrel pistol before. While I do almost all my training with FMC, I do practice with my carry gun and ammo at every range session...simply five rounds with four different drills, starting cold from the concealed position. This helps me cycle through my carry ammo, but not so much that it's cost-prohibitive. ROCK6