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Old October 3, 2018, 10:11 AM   #26
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So, after all this, if I were in the market for a TAC 14, and I am, should I go ahead and make the purchase, or run like hell?
Roll the dice. It seems like a lot of folks here are OK with the prospect of the end user having to finish the gun to make it sure operates correctly.
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Old October 3, 2018, 05:40 PM   #27
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So, after all this, if I were in the market for a TAC 14, and I am, should I go ahead and make the purchase, or run like hell?
I haven’t had any Remington issues but I only own two and one is a 20 year old 870. If you like the TAC 14 get it, as for me I would opt for the Shockwave if I were in the market.
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Old October 4, 2018, 02:33 PM   #28
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I am also considering the Mossberg Shockwave. I like the fact that the Mossberg holds 5+1 versus the TAC14's 4+1.

However, I also have noticed the TAC 14 has a magazine fed version that holds 6+1. Has anyone held, shot, bought one of these Magazine fed versions. How does it do?

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Old October 21, 2018, 09:03 AM   #29
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I have two recent Remington purchases and both were fine. The last year or so they seem to have re-commited to putting out better quality. Think of the volume they produce; there are going to be some lemons. Same as cars.

On the Customer Service front, I’ve found that with any company, a phone call (not an email) and pleasant demeanor help a lot.
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Old October 21, 2018, 10:38 AM   #30
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"Don't blame Remington", Of course you have to blame Remington, 5 minutes to polish a chamber wouldn't add .50 to the price of the 870. BLAME REMINGTON.
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Old October 21, 2018, 04:08 PM   #31
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"Don't blame Remington", Of course you have to blame Remington, 5 minutes to polish a chamber wouldn't add .50 to the price of the 870. BLAME REMINGTON.
Of course it would; it requires extra handling; extra personnel; extra machinery, and extra shop space. In the meantime, they are trying to compete with Chinese 870 clones made by folks who $.50/hour
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Old October 21, 2018, 05:54 PM   #32
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I recently purchased a 20 gauge 870 from Walmart. Camo all over, screw in chokes, takes 3" shells, and came with extra spacers to lengthen the buttstock.

I can't find a flaw in fit, finish or function.

My only gripe, I posted here right after purchasing it, is the comb is high for me. I could use a little more drop to get level on the rib. Bottom line, that's not a manufacturing defect.

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Old October 21, 2018, 07:36 PM   #33
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....can't find a flaw in fit, finish or function.
The test is El Cheapo Winchester Whitebox/steel base ammunition*

Have you tried it yet?


*(Win WhiteBox, Win "USA" and Field & Stream "Game & Target" all appear to be made by the same Federal outfit in Akron)
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Old October 21, 2018, 10:19 PM   #34
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Nope, but I've run quite a bit of low brass federal and remington through it now.
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Old October 22, 2018, 05:28 AM   #35
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If those are steel base material (glom onto magnet), then you got a good one.
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Old October 22, 2018, 05:10 PM   #36
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Awww... do I have to shoot steel base? Low brass Walmart fodder is cheap enough and it works. Why bother with steel base?
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Old October 22, 2018, 05:27 PM   #37
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`Cause that's the test.
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Old October 22, 2018, 07:02 PM   #38
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Awww... do I have to shoot steel base? Low brass Walmart fodder is cheap enough and it works. Why bother with steel base?
NOT talking about the payload, but the hull head material. Unless you buy REM STS or WIN AAs, you are buying steel based ammo.........all of the cheap Federal crap, Winchester Universals or Super Speeds are all crappy steel based ammo - and some of the WORST crap you can buy.......
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Old October 23, 2018, 12:08 PM   #39
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Yes, understood, the base not the pellets. If the Feds, however are steel base, they must be brass plated, which would be no real surprise.

Nevertheless, I guess my 870 passed the test with flying colors.

I've run several hundred rounds of the shells I purchased at Walmart, including the low base Federal mentioned, and so far, they've all run right through without a single hiccup. Maybe I better go buy a lotto ticket, seems my luck is red hot if new Remingtons are as bad as some suggest.
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Old October 25, 2018, 10:45 AM   #40
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All my Remingtons are kinda old, so I can not comment on the newer production(1).

I can, however, testify that both my 870s and my 1100 run with the cheapest, nastiest low-price fodder I have been able to get my hands on. High-brass, low-brass, low-steel, even shells without any metal on the hull except the primer.

Yes, even my 1100 runs steel base and no-metal-base target shells just fine. What chokes it is purpose-built Herters low-recoil 12ga target fodder that gets a claimed 1050fps or so. Those are not built for semi-autos. I dearly love them for my 870s, though. My sone can shoot his 12ga 870 al day with no fatigue from recoil.



(1) Hard to pass up an old 870 Police or Wingmaster with a fixed choke & no rib bbl for fewer $$$ than a new Express. Once I learned that I really don't need interchangeable chokes for my kind of hunting, all those cheap fixed-choke guns became more interesting to me.
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