Non-carry states for Thanksgiving - Page 2

FITASC · November 29, 2018, 10:22 AM

I never broke any laws; my comments were regarding this inordinate paranoia that seems to grip folks about driving through those states and how they are going to get pulled over, car thoroughly thrashed by LEO and thrown in jail because they have out of state plates from a more gun-friendly state.

Glenn E. Meyer · November 29, 2018, 10:50 AM

I didn't say you did, I was talking about some of the other posts and the general principle. No time out for you.

pete2 · November 29, 2018, 10:53 AM

If you don't live there don't go there. If you live there?????????????????????????????

n4aof · November 29, 2018, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dano4734

We need federal carry permits maybe some one will have the nerve to actually pass a bill

That won't happen until the Democrats decide such a bill is in their best interests. Republicans talk a good game but they simply don't have any clue about how to be a majority.

FITASC · November 29, 2018, 01:43 PM

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I didn't say you did, I was talking about some of the other posts and the general principle. No time out for you.

We're all good Glenn! (insert handshake emoticon here)

ammo.crafter · November 29, 2018, 02:09 PM

Having lived in N Y and NJ I carried hornet bug spray in the car; the one that shoots a stream about 10 feet. Then NY and NJ banned this from cars.
Forget about tear gas, that's a no-no as well.

Anything that could be deemed a weapon, baseball bat, tire iron, etc. could land you in jail for the weekend.

Living in PA is sweet (so far), and CCW permits simple to obtain and no jumping through hoops.

Persecute the law abiding and embrace the criminal.

Don’t be fooled, these politicians are following a plan and it is going very well for them.

rodfac · November 29, 2018, 08:28 PM

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1. Think about if it is good idea to discuss your breaking the law on an open forum that might be discovered if you are in trouble in some future event. Someone will say judged by ... than .... We know this.

2. The rhetoric of a 'communist state' is nice for the Internet bluster but it's just silly. It is used as an insult that has as much reality as calling all gun owners 'facists'. If anything, it indicates you really don't know that the terms mean.

It's not clever. It also insults good people who live in a state for various reasons.

Well said, Glen. Plus 1. Carrying where it's prohibited is never a good idea. The legal consequences could be catastrophic for you and your family. Rod

CDW4ME · December 1, 2018, 02:11 PM

Wife's sister lives in state where our permit is invalid; we split the cost of a condo in neighboring state where our permit is valid met there over Thanksgiving.

willr · December 1, 2018, 04:25 PM

I had a spring opened hunting knife that I planned to give to my grandson. Discovered on research that there are FEDERAL laws dealing with "switch-blade" knives, their transfer, and carrying them. So we need to be concerned with more than just our handguns!! This is more than just the various states mucking around with our rights
willr

Winny · December 1, 2018, 04:39 PM

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Think about if it is good idea to discuss your breaking the law on an open forum

No law breaking here. Didn’t bring my pistol into the state, and definitely did not carry illegally therein.

Was more-so asking what an average EDC in these states looks like..

Pepper/bear spray may be a good addition it seems. Luckily I’m back south and can go back to my regular rig.

Reloadron · December 1, 2018, 06:00 PM

I was NYC born and raised when I could walk into my local hardware store and buy a gun or box of ammunition. When we drooled over that beautiful rifle we saw on the back cover of Boys Life Magazine.

My wife and I normally make a trip back to NYC or actually now Long Island for an annual party on the beach with old friends. Before we head back I actually go through a "truck sterilization" process making sure nothing is in my truck even remotely gun related, like any stray ammunition left from a range outing. Sad but such is life.

Here is an Ohio CCW Reciprocity Map compliments of The Buckeye Firearms Association. I am good with a gun right till I cross that NJ State Line. Cross that line with a gun and I become a criminal. There is a story out there about some poor woman who drifted over the state line and it wasn't pretty.

So I got to thinking which I seldom do since retiring. When I was a young Marine I went to school in Memphis Tenn. or actually Naval Air Station Millington Tenn. In order to go on liberty you were in uniform or you didn't leave the base. So you put on a uniform and boarded the bus for downtown Memphis. When you got off the bus in downtown you walked across the street to the locker club where you had a rented locker. You put on your civilian attire, enjoyed your liberty and before returning to base went back to the locker club and put the uniform back on to return to base. What the hell does this have to do with guns and today?

I will open locker clubs for guns at an Interstate Highway just prior to crossing a state line like NY, NJ CA and similar. Drop your gun off in our gun friendly locker rental locations where it will be safe and secure in our temperature and humidity controlled environment until you return for it. Discounts available for regular travelers. Gun locker clubs conveniently located for your guns traveling pleasure. Travel NYC and surrounding NY areas knowing your gun is safe and secure and that you are not a criminal.

Ron

Onward Allusion · December 1, 2018, 11:14 PM

After 2 pages of this, it still amazes me that there are still those who argue against universal reciprocity.

Reloadron · December 2, 2018, 09:03 AM

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After 2 pages of this, it still amazes me that there are still those who argue against universal reciprocity.

While I see it as a great move the Fed is going to let the individual states make their own laws under home rule and you can rest assured that at least 1/2 dozen states and D.C are not going to go along with it.

Ron

willr · December 2, 2018, 02:10 PM

As said above, cross a state line with a firearm and become a criminal. As I found out above, you can cross a state line even with a pocket knife and become a criminal. I wish I knew how to fight all this.
willr

hagar · December 5, 2018, 11:52 AM

I do believe that is true about the DMV having access to your home states CCW records. Also a firm believer of not having any bumper stickers on my vehicle.

Good reason to put all the cars in the wife's name, as she does not have a ccw..

Glenn E. Meyer · December 5, 2018, 01:02 PM

The reciprocity argument revolves around whether the law would force states to accept the least restriction permits or force states to use the most restrictions in terms of training requirements.

In today's world, some states don't accept easy to get permits as their requirements are more stringent. If you start writing universal permits, there would be a push for real tough standards.

What level of universal requirements would be acceptable.

Again, I was talking about the general principles. Not picking on anybody in particular.

November 29, 2018, 10:22 AM	#26
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,441	I never broke any laws; my comments were regarding this inordinate paranoia that seems to grip folks about driving through those states and how they are going to get pulled over, car thoroughly thrashed by LEO and thrown in jail because they have out of state plates from a more gun-friendly state. __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

November 29, 2018, 10:50 AM	#27
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	I didn't say you did, I was talking about some of the other posts and the general principle. No time out for you. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

November 29, 2018, 02:09 PM	#31
ammo.crafter Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2006 Location: The Keystone State Posts: 1,970	NJ ccw Having lived in N Y and NJ I carried hornet bug spray in the car; the one that shoots a stream about 10 feet. Then NY and NJ banned this from cars. Forget about tear gas, that's a no-no as well. Anything that could be deemed a weapon, baseball bat, tire iron, etc. could land you in jail for the weekend. Living in PA is sweet (so far), and CCW permits simple to obtain and no jumping through hoops. Persecute the law abiding and embrace the criminal. Don’t be fooled, these politicians are following a plan and it is going very well for them. __________________ "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". --Thomas Jefferson

December 1, 2018, 02:11 PM	#33
CDW4ME Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Posts: 1,321	Wife's sister lives in state where our permit is invalid; we split the cost of a condo in neighboring state where our permit is valid met there over Thanksgiving. __________________ Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap. "Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.

December 1, 2018, 11:14 PM	#37
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,133	After 2 pages of this, it still amazes me that there are still those who argue against universal reciprocity. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

November 29, 2018, 10:53 AM	#28
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	If you don't live there don't go there. If you live there?????????????????????????????

December 1, 2018, 04:25 PM	#34
willr Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2006 Posts: 356	I had a spring opened hunting knife that I planned to give to my grandson. Discovered on research that there are FEDERAL laws dealing with "switch-blade" knives, their transfer, and carrying them. So we need to be concerned with more than just our handguns!! This is more than just the various states mucking around with our rights willr

December 1, 2018, 06:00 PM	#36
Reloadron Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 2016 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Suburbs Posts: 1,750	I was NYC born and raised when I could walk into my local hardware store and buy a gun or box of ammunition. When we drooled over that beautiful rifle we saw on the back cover of Boys Life Magazine. My wife and I normally make a trip back to NYC or actually now Long Island for an annual party on the beach with old friends. Before we head back I actually go through a "truck sterilization" process making sure nothing is in my truck even remotely gun related, like any stray ammunition left from a range outing. Sad but such is life. Here is an *Ohio CCW Reciprocity Map* compliments of The Buckeye Firearms Association. I am good with a gun right till I cross that NJ State Line. Cross that line with a gun and I become a criminal. There is a story out there about some poor woman who drifted over the state line and it wasn't pretty. So I got to thinking which I seldom do since retiring. When I was a young Marine I went to school in Memphis Tenn. or actually Naval Air Station Millington Tenn. In order to go on liberty you were in uniform or you didn't leave the base. So you put on a uniform and boarded the bus for downtown Memphis. When you got off the bus in downtown you walked across the street to the locker club where you had a rented locker. You put on your civilian attire, enjoyed your liberty and before returning to base went back to the locker club and put the uniform back on to return to base. What the hell does this have to do with guns and today? I will open locker clubs for guns at an Interstate Highway just prior to crossing a state line like NY, NJ CA and similar. Drop your gun off in our gun friendly locker rental locations where it will be safe and secure in our temperature and humidity controlled environment until you return for it. Discounts available for regular travelers. Gun locker clubs conveniently located for your guns traveling pleasure. Travel NYC and surrounding NY areas knowing your gun is safe and secure and that you are not a criminal. Ron

December 2, 2018, 02:10 PM	#39
willr Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2006 Posts: 356	As said above, cross a state line with a firearm and become a criminal. As I found out above, you can cross a state line even with a pocket knife and become a criminal. I wish I knew how to fight all this. willr

December 5, 2018, 11:52 AM	#40
hagar Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2000 Location: Colombia, SC Posts: 745	I do believe that is true about the DMV having access to your home states CCW records. Also a firm believer of not having any bumper stickers on my vehicle. Good reason to put all the cars in the wife's name, as she does not have a ccw.. __________________ I don't have time for busy people

December 5, 2018, 01:02 PM	#41
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	The reciprocity argument revolves around whether the law would force states to accept the least restriction permits or force states to use the most restrictions in terms of training requirements. In today's world, some states don't accept easy to get permits as their requirements are more stringent. If you start writing universal permits, there would be a push for real tough standards. What level of universal requirements would be acceptable. Again, I was talking about the general principles. Not picking on anybody in particular. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens