SASS Reloads

M2HMGHB · May 20, 2004, 07:27 PM

Not sure whether to put the post here or in reloading. Anyways I'm going to be loading up some loads for cowboy action shooting and wanted to know what everyone uses, what velocity is recomended etc. Thanks in advance.

**4V50 Gary** · May 20, 2004, 07:56 PM

Caliber please.

cswaffie · May 21, 2004, 10:36 AM

Well there is always black powder! I fill the case of my .44-40s and that turns out to be around 33 gr. Sure is fun seeing all that smoke!

M2HMGHB · May 21, 2004, 11:26 AM

Cripes that was dumb of me not to include caliber. 38 specials, thanks Gary

Throckmorton · May 22, 2004, 11:29 AM

Howdy Pard.

In case you are totally new to cas ammo,lead bullets only...or moly coated.
Most pards load real light for muzzle control,and there are many powders that will come in about four grains,plus or minus.
What bullet weight are you thinking? 125's are popular for pistols,most rifles feed 158's a tad better.
to keep things simple,one powder for both cartridges is a great idea,IMHO.
Example: you can load both weights of bullets with 3.7 gr. of Titegroup and have a load that will work for either weight bullet.DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT,PLS. VERIFY BEFORE USING MY DATA.
I got this data from the LaserCast manual.FYI.
Cowboy shoots are a HOOT!!

griz · May 22, 2004, 12:38 PM

I use Titegroup for both the 125's (pistol) and the 158's (rifle). Many powders will work. American Select is gaining popularity. 231, Bullseye, 700X, and others are old standards. Loading for SASS isn't complicated. I go for reliability first since ammo problems hurt your score more than anything else. As already mentioned, most loads are light. Some cowpersons are starting to use magnum primers, presumably for better ignition of the small charges.

Jbar4Ranch · May 29, 2004, 01:56 PM

For .38 and .357 both, I use 3.5 grains of Titegroup and either a Lyman 356637 (147 grain BB RFN, a 9mm bullet really, but I had hundreds of 'em on hand.) or an Ideal 358416 (158 grain RFN). In .45 Colt, I use 5.5 grains of Titegroup and a Lyman 454190 (250 grain RFN). I haven't come up a CAS load for .44-40 yet, but I'm working on it.

In that relatively big .357 case, 3.5 grains of powder isn't much. I don't use any filler, and I haven't had any problems so far. (fingers crossed)

Mike Weber · May 30, 2004, 03:28 PM

Good to see some familiar pards posting here. Howdy Mort and Jbar and Gary. Sorry can't help with the 38 Loads as I shoot .45 Colt Blackpowder for my SASS loads.

Tommy gunn · May 30, 2004, 03:56 PM

The Dark Side - Cowboy Action Black Powder Shooting

Ever wanted to load blackpowder cartridge but did not know how? Well some of the Soot Lords that participate in cowboy action shooting have put together an instructional video. So click on the link above and check it out.

David Berkowitz · June 1, 2004, 12:47 AM

I've been useing 3.2 gr of Titegroup behind 96 gr moly bullets for pistol and the same charge behind 125 gr. moly for rifle.
I have been extremely please with the accuracy of the loads, but that could change in other peoples weapons.
I am absolutely thrilled with the evenness of the powder charge. I load using a Dillon 650 and check about every 40-50 rounds. Each one is right on the money. And I rarely see a difference from one batch to another, but there is sone and you should check.
Lastly, the Titegroup is about the most inexpensive powder I can find.

Trapdoor Billy · June 4, 2004, 05:47 AM

FFFg works well in the .45 Colt, 44 & 38 WCF too. I would imagine that it would work just as well in the 38 Special case.

May 20, 2004, 07:27 PM	#1
M2HMGHB Member Join Date: April 16, 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 90	SASS Reloads Not sure whether to put the post here or in reloading. Anyways I'm going to be loading up some loads for cowboy action shooting and wanted to know what everyone uses, what velocity is recomended etc. Thanks in advance.

May 20, 2004, 07:56 PM	#2
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Caliber please. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

May 29, 2004, 01:56 PM	#7
Jbar4Ranch Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 1999 Location: Near Helena, Montana Posts: 1,719	For .38 and .357 both, I use 3.5 grains of Titegroup and either a Lyman 356637 (147 grain BB RFN, a 9mm bullet really, but I had hundreds of 'em on hand.) or an Ideal 358416 (158 grain RFN). In .45 Colt, I use 5.5 grains of Titegroup and a Lyman 454190 (250 grain RFN). I haven't come up a CAS load for .44-40 yet, but I'm working on it. In that relatively big .357 case, 3.5 grains of powder isn't much. I don't use any filler, and I haven't had any problems so far. (fingers crossed) __________________ Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets replaced... SASS 47015

May 30, 2004, 03:28 PM	#8
Mike Weber Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2002 Location: Northern California Posts: 238	Good to see some familiar pards posting here. Howdy Mort and Jbar and Gary. Sorry can't help with the 38 Loads as I shoot .45 Colt Blackpowder for my SASS loads. __________________ M. Weber "Molon labe" http://shootersfreehold.com/ A place for firearms enthusiasts to congregate.

May 30, 2004, 03:56 PM	#9
Tommy gunn Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Posts: 36	You need to get this DVD The Dark Side - Cowboy Action Black Powder Shooting Ever wanted to load blackpowder cartridge but did not know how? Well some of the Soot Lords that participate in cowboy action shooting have put together an instructional video. So click on the link above and check it out.

May 21, 2004, 10:36 AM	#3
cswaffie Junior Member Join Date: May 21, 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 7	Well there is always black powder! I fill the case of my .44-40s and that turns out to be around 33 gr. Sure is fun seeing all that smoke!

May 21, 2004, 11:26 AM	#4
M2HMGHB Member Join Date: April 16, 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 90	Cripes that was dumb of me not to include caliber. 38 specials, thanks Gary

May 22, 2004, 11:29 AM	#5
Throckmorton Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2004 Location: Washougal,Wa Posts: 126	Howdy Pard. In case you are totally new to cas ammo,lead bullets only...or moly coated. Most pards load real light for muzzle control,and there are many powders that will come in about four grains,plus or minus. What bullet weight are you thinking? 125's are popular for pistols,most rifles feed 158's a tad better. to keep things simple,one powder for both cartridges is a great idea,IMHO. Example: you can load both weights of bullets with 3.7 gr. of Titegroup and have a load that will work for either weight bullet.DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT,PLS. VERIFY BEFORE USING MY DATA. I got this data from the LaserCast manual.FYI. Cowboy shoots are a HOOT!!

May 22, 2004, 12:38 PM	#6
griz Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2000 Location: Middle Peninsula, VA Posts: 1,588	I use Titegroup for both the 125's (pistol) and the 158's (rifle). Many powders will work. American Select is gaining popularity. 231, Bullseye, 700X, and others are old standards. Loading for SASS isn't complicated. I go for reliability first since ammo problems hurt your score more than anything else. As already mentioned, most loads are light. Some cowpersons are starting to use magnum primers, presumably for better ignition of the small charges.

June 1, 2004, 12:47 AM	#10
David Berkowitz Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 1999 Location: Yucaipa, CA USA Posts: 214	I've been useing 3.2 gr of Titegroup behind 96 gr moly bullets for pistol and the same charge behind 125 gr. moly for rifle. I have been extremely please with the accuracy of the loads, but that could change in other peoples weapons. I am absolutely thrilled with the evenness of the powder charge. I load using a Dillon 650 and check about every 40-50 rounds. Each one is right on the money. And I rarely see a difference from one batch to another, but there is sone and you should check. Lastly, the Titegroup is about the most inexpensive powder I can find.

June 4, 2004, 05:47 AM	#11
Trapdoor Billy Member Join Date: October 11, 1998 Location: Bear, DE,USA Posts: 53	FFFg works well in the .45 Colt, 44 & 38 WCF too. I would imagine that it would work just as well in the 38 Special case. __________________ Trapdoor Billy Indian Scout and Delaware Cowboy

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