source(s) for BP?

bamaranger · November 8, 2017, 10:05 PM

I went to my cabinet today and discovered that the only BP I had was a partial flask of 3F. After half a dozen phone calls or more, it appears nobody locally (within 50 miles) sells genuine BP anymore. I have some leads on two other shooters who may sell me a pound, granulation uncertain.

Maine Powder house is 10-7. Powder Inc has a 5 lb minimum, with hazmat fees, a 5 lb order is $145 !!!!!!

Grafs is some better, 4 lbs at near $100 for 4 lbs.

What are folks doing for powder.....that is higher than I pay for smokeless by the pound, over the counter.

Model12Win · November 8, 2017, 11:28 PM

Either find some fellow shooters to pitch in for a bulk 25 pound order, or buy in bulk and shoot for years.

I used to be lucky to live within range of Graf and Sons so I'd stop in powder from time to time.

I'm seven pounds away from being in your situation now that I've moved!

Hawg · November 9, 2017, 06:02 AM

When I can buy real bp I buy Swiss from Powder Inc. When I can't I shoot Pyrodex.

44 Dave · November 9, 2017, 08:18 AM

The Bass Pro price was $25/lb. ,last year. On line the price is about $15. It doesn't take much to cover the haz. shipping.
When I started shooting black powder the local sport shop sold it for $2.

**4V50 Gary** · November 9, 2017, 09:07 AM

It was $6 for me back in the '70s.

Maine Powder House, Track of the Wolf are good online sources.

CLYA · November 9, 2017, 09:46 AM

Six pounds from Graf's a few weeks ago. Should last awhile. Order shipped within two days, and packed very well.

Texas Reb · November 9, 2017, 12:25 PM

Pyrodex was 24 a pound and blackthorn 209 was 37 bucks for 10 ounces. I think I'm right. This was at wallyworld yesterday.

Ridiculous

44 Dave · November 9, 2017, 03:28 PM

Think I was 17 when I thought $2 was excessive so I ordered a 15 lb. barrel and got it shipped to the door for about $1/lb. !
That was before the crazies were blowing people up.

drobs · November 9, 2017, 10:11 PM

I was contemplating a powder order a few weeks ago. Seemed to me Graf's had the better pricing / selection compared to Powder Inc.

Hawg · November 9, 2017, 10:49 PM

Powder Inc has the hazmat and shipping included in the price.

drobs · November 10, 2017, 04:37 AM

Graf's adds $20 for hazmat and $7 handling/shipping to the total order.
Powder Inc includes shipping and hazmat in their price.

Compare the following:

10lbs Goex 3f
Graf's with shipping & Haz = $207.85 (lowest)
Powder Inc shipped = $222.50

25lbs Goex 3f
Graf's with shipping & Haz = $477
Powder Inc shipped = $452.50 (lowest)

Graf's private label Schuetzen is the best deal.
10lbs 3f shipped = 187.50 (lowest)
25lbs 3f shipped = $427.70 (lowest)

My local store carries Graf's Scheutzen for $20lb + tax, which for me is more convenient.

https://powderinc.com/black-powder/
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...ategoryId/3501

maillemaker · November 10, 2017, 10:53 AM

The sad reality is that unless you can afford to buy 10+ pounds at a go you are looking at $25 a pound. Even when we had a local gun store that sold BP it was $26 a pound.

You might consider making your own. I'm about to start myself - I have all the ingredients prepped and have a press puck and ball mill I just need to go pick up a harbor freight hydraulic press. You can make it for about $5 a pound.

Steve

CLYA · November 10, 2017, 11:28 AM

What I did like about Graf's, is that I could mix different 1 lb. brands. I bought three different brands of 2f & 3f, for a total of 6.

roashooter · November 12, 2017, 03:14 PM

Not an answer....but an observation. If you "call' around looking for BP...you stand a greater chance of contacting someone who does not know if they have BP and will just say no. Its been my personal experience, with my local Bass Pro...when asking the guys behind the counter if they had "real BP' the first answer was 'NO". But an older gentleman waiting on another customer...waved at me...and when he got the chance...told me that they did have real BP...locked up in a FD approved safe in the back...and sadly added most of the part time employees did not know.

bamaranger · November 21, 2017, 01:40 AM

Got to digging around in the cabinet and lo and behold,....... 1.5 lbs of 3F, and a pound of 2F. So I'm good for the time being, but I will have to work something out. I've learned of some other local possiblilities, but I have more than enough to hunt with for the present.

Thanks for all replies. The BP situation has really changed since I started years ago.

Lee44ShooterCnB · November 21, 2017, 11:30 AM

Make my own....and you can get the “stuff” needed at Lowe’s
I press mine into pucks...then grind

Tidewater_Kid · November 21, 2017, 11:42 AM

I buy mine from the Bass Pro Shop in Leeds.

bamaranger · November 22, 2017, 02:23 AM

When I get in the Huntsville area, I will check out the Bass Pro shop there.

Leeds is a bit farther than I'd like to drive......but I have occassional cause to get in the B-ham area now and again, I'll put it on my list.

noelf2 · November 22, 2017, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Make my own....and you can get the “stuff” needed at Lowe’s
I press mine into pucks...then grind

What charcoal are you using?

November 8, 2017, 10:05 PM	#1
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,312	source(s) for BP? I went to my cabinet today and discovered that the only BP I had was a partial flask of 3F. After half a dozen phone calls or more, it appears nobody locally (within 50 miles) sells genuine BP anymore. I have some leads on two other shooters who may sell me a pound, granulation uncertain. Maine Powder house is 10-7. Powder Inc has a 5 lb minimum, with hazmat fees, a 5 lb order is $145 !!!!!! Grafs is some better, 4 lbs at near $100 for 4 lbs. What are folks doing for powder.....that is higher than I pay for smokeless by the pound, over the counter.

November 9, 2017, 09:07 AM	#5
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	It was $6 for me back in the '70s. Maine Powder House, Track of the Wolf are good online sources. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

November 9, 2017, 10:11 PM	#9
drobs Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2015 Location: South Central MO / Africa Posts: 1,111	I was contemplating a powder order a few weeks ago. Seemed to me Graf's had the better pricing / selection compared to Powder Inc. __________________ NRA Life Member

November 10, 2017, 04:37 AM	#11
drobs Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2015 Location: South Central MO / Africa Posts: 1,111	Graf's adds $20 for hazmat and $7 handling/shipping to the total order. Powder Inc includes shipping and hazmat in their price. Compare the following: 10lbs Goex 3f Graf's with shipping & Haz = $207.85 (lowest) Powder Inc shipped = $222.50 25lbs Goex 3f Graf's with shipping & Haz = $477 Powder Inc shipped = $452.50 (lowest) Graf's private label Schuetzen is the best deal. 10lbs 3f shipped = 187.50 (lowest) 25lbs 3f shipped = $427.70 (lowest) My local store carries Graf's Scheutzen for $20lb + tax, which for me is more convenient. https://powderinc.com/black-powder/ https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...ategoryId/3501 __________________ NRA Life Member

November 21, 2017, 01:40 AM	#15
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,312	aha! Got to digging around in the cabinet and lo and behold,....... 1.5 lbs of 3F, and a pound of 2F. So I'm good for the time being, but I will have to work something out. I've learned of some other local possiblilities, but I have more than enough to hunt with for the present. Thanks for all replies. The BP situation has really changed since I started years ago.

November 8, 2017, 11:28 PM	#2
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Either find some fellow shooters to pitch in for a bulk 25 pound order, or buy in bulk and shoot for years. I used to be lucky to live within range of Graf and Sons so I'd stop in powder from time to time. I'm seven pounds away from being in your situation now that I've moved!

November 9, 2017, 06:02 AM	#3
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	When I can buy real bp I buy Swiss from Powder Inc. When I can't I shoot Pyrodex.

November 9, 2017, 08:18 AM	#4
44 Dave Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2013 Posts: 584	The Bass Pro price was $25/lb. ,last year. On line the price is about $15. It doesn't take much to cover the haz. shipping. When I started shooting black powder the local sport shop sold it for $2.

November 9, 2017, 09:46 AM	#6
CLYA Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2017 Posts: 125	Six pounds from Graf's a few weeks ago. Should last awhile. Order shipped within two days, and packed very well.

November 9, 2017, 12:25 PM	#7
Texas Reb Member Join Date: December 29, 2014 Posts: 82	Pyrodex was 24 a pound and blackthorn 209 was 37 bucks for 10 ounces. I think I'm right. This was at wallyworld yesterday. Ridiculous

November 9, 2017, 03:28 PM	#8
44 Dave Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2013 Posts: 584	Think I was 17 when I thought $2 was excessive so I ordered a 15 lb. barrel and got it shipped to the door for about $1/lb. ! That was before the crazies were blowing people up.

November 9, 2017, 10:49 PM	#10
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	Powder Inc has the hazmat and shipping included in the price.

November 10, 2017, 10:53 AM	#12
maillemaker Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 1,635	The sad reality is that unless you can afford to buy 10+ pounds at a go you are looking at $25 a pound. Even when we had a local gun store that sold BP it was $26 a pound. You might consider making your own. I'm about to start myself - I have all the ingredients prepped and have a press puck and ball mill I just need to go pick up a harbor freight hydraulic press. You can make it for about $5 a pound. Steve

November 10, 2017, 11:28 AM	#13
CLYA Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2017 Posts: 125	What I did like about Graf's, is that I could mix different 1 lb. brands. I bought three different brands of 2f & 3f, for a total of 6.

November 12, 2017, 03:14 PM	#14
roashooter Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Posts: 508	Not an answer....but an observation. If you "call' around looking for BP...you stand a greater chance of contacting someone who does not know if they have BP and will just say no. Its been my personal experience, with my local Bass Pro...when asking the guys behind the counter if they had "real BP' the first answer was 'NO". But an older gentleman waiting on another customer...waved at me...and when he got the chance...told me that they did have real BP...locked up in a FD approved safe in the back...and sadly added most of the part time employees did not know.

November 21, 2017, 11:30 AM	#16
Lee44ShooterCnB Member Join Date: May 13, 2015 Location: Ga. Posts: 68	Make my own....and you can get the “stuff” needed at Lowe’s I press mine into pucks...then grind

November 21, 2017, 11:42 AM	#17
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	I buy mine from the Bass Pro Shop in Leeds.

November 22, 2017, 02:23 AM	#18
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,312	next time When I get in the Huntsville area, I will check out the Bass Pro shop there. Leeds is a bit farther than I'd like to drive......but I have occassional cause to get in the B-ham area now and again, I'll put it on my list.