When To or Not To Shoot

MrBot · September 27, 2017, 12:01 AM

Ok, this is a what if post. Let's say you're a truck driver resting in the sleeper birth (the area behind the seats. It has a 38" wide x 80" long bed mattress & some closet/storage area for clothing, etc). There is a privacy curtain between you & the driver & passenger seat blocking your view into the seating area of the truck. Someone forces his/her way into the truck. You're armed with a handgun. You've no idea who this intruder is nor what his/her intentions are. What do you do?

**JohnKSa** · September 27, 2017, 12:14 AM

The key points in making the decision to use deadly force are always the same.

1. Do the circumstances of the situation create the reasonable belief that you are in immediate danger of serious injury or death?
2. Is there another reasonable way to handle the problem that won't expose you to the danger of serious injury or death?

If the answer to the first question is an unequivocal "Yes" and the answer to the second is a clear "No", then shoot. Otherwise don't.

NoSecondBest · September 27, 2017, 09:01 AM

Let's suppose it ends up being a couple of kids looking for loose change or some odds and ends like radios, etc. Do you kill someone for stealing loose change? JohnKSa gave you the right answer. Unless you want to end up in prison, you'd better make sure the threat is real. As much as I hate a thief, they don't deserve the death penalty for petty theft. Hold them at gun point and call the police.

Pahoo · September 27, 2017, 09:15 AM

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I hate a thief, they don't deserve the death penalty for petty theft. Hold them at gun point and call the police.

Because you just woke up and really don't have your wits about you and can't hardly make a rational decision. Lawyers know what to do with this evidence. Really can't tell you what to do or capable of doing. Let us pray that it never happens to any of us. ......

Be Safe !!!

**OldMarksman** · September 27, 2017, 09:21 AM

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Hold them at gun point and call the police.

That's a very bad idea, for a number of reasons.

You want 'em gone.

Review this:

https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...89&postcount=1

Al Norris · September 27, 2017, 10:50 AM

To shoot or not to shoot...

That's much more of a Tactics and Training question than a question of Law or Civil Rights.

Closed for being completely off topic.

September 27, 2017, 12:01 AM	#1
MrBot Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2013 Posts: 113	When To or Not To Shoot Ok, this is a what if post. Let's say you're a truck driver resting in the sleeper birth (the area behind the seats. It has a 38" wide x 80" long bed mattress & some closet/storage area for clothing, etc). There is a privacy curtain between you & the driver & passenger seat blocking your view into the seating area of the truck. Someone forces his/her way into the truck. You're armed with a handgun. You've no idea who this intruder is nor what his/her intentions are. What do you do?

September 27, 2017, 12:14 AM	#2
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,971	The key points in making the decision to use deadly force are always the same. 1. Do the circumstances of the situation create the reasonable belief that you are in immediate danger of serious injury or death? 2. Is there another reasonable way to handle the problem that won't expose you to the danger of serious injury or death? If the answer to the first question is an unequivocal "Yes" and the answer to the second is a clear "No", then shoot. Otherwise don't. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

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September 27, 2017, 09:01 AM	#3
NoSecondBest Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2009 Location: Western New York Posts: 2,736	Let's suppose it ends up being a couple of kids looking for loose change or some odds and ends like radios, etc. Do you kill someone for stealing loose change? JohnKSa gave you the right answer. Unless you want to end up in prison, you'd better make sure the threat is real. As much as I hate a thief, they don't deserve the death penalty for petty theft. Hold them at gun point and call the police.

September 27, 2017, 10:50 AM	#6
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	To shoot or not to shoot... That's much more of a Tactics and Training question than a question of Law or Civil Rights. Closed for being completely off topic.