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Old July 21, 2020, 10:42 AM   #51
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Lots of desperate saves being attempted here!

It's fairly obvious that it can be a good idea to take advantage of a vehicle's safety and power in some confrontations. When someone is approaching you from a good distance with things like scissors, getting in the car may well be the smart move. It's really, really hard to break into a moving car with scissors.

This guy was peppered with rounds, and the cop, who was saved by pure luck, still got battered and could easily have died. The problem: the weight of the projectiles. A 4000-pound projectile has true stopping power.

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Old July 21, 2020, 11:42 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by peacefulgary View Post
Bad tactics in my opinion.
She was responding to a knife attack, so she knew the suspect was armed with at least one knife.
She found her suspect.
He stopped.
She stopped.
She got out of her cruiser.
He got out of his car with a weapon in his hand.
She tells him to drop the weapon.
And the rest is history.

Not to be a Monday morning QB, but a better tactic would have been this:
He stops.
She stops.
She gets out of her cruiser.
He gets out of his car with a weapon in his hand.
She quickly gets back in her cruiser and hits the gas and runs over the idiot.

Sometimes, a firearm is not the best tool for the job.
As she knew that the perp had just stabbed someone, I think she should’ve exited her vehicle with her shotgun or patrol rifle if that’s what she had. I’d bet that she wouldn’t have had to shoot him as many times with a long gun as with her pistol. Make no mistake, this guy needed shooting. Regardless, she handled the malfunction perfectly and got the job done in the end.
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Old July 27, 2020, 02:00 PM   #53
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Your opinion is irrelevant.
As a 4+ decade LEO I can also say your opinion is absud.
My opinion is just as relevant as your opinion.
Just because you've been a LEO for 4+ decades does NOT mean you're right or even that you know what the heck you're talking about.
What you're saying is "I'm a cop, and have been a cop for a very long time, and nobody who isn't a cop can tell me anything about tactics".
This ^^^ mentality is the product of stupid training.

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Old July 27, 2020, 02:05 PM   #54
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Where are these bystanders you speak of...?
How did she endanger them...?
Did you even watch the video???
She was on a street with houses on both sides!
You might not know this, but people tend to live and reside in houses.
One of her misses could have entered a home window and killed someone just watching TV.
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Old July 27, 2020, 02:22 PM   #55
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