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October 18, 2018, 06:06 PM | #1 |
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Here’s a good one on airline travel
When I came back from my moose hunt in Alaska my hand loads 45-70 were missing in my checked bag. Called delta and they said it has to be inside a factory box like Remington or such. Mine were in plastic box that all of us reloaders have. When did that rule come about or did someone at the airport in Alaska need 45-70 rounds. I do know my fish box is always a bit lighter when I get back. No big deal but what the heck. I am talking checked bag . Inside was a tsa note that they inspected it. Now I never had problems with ammo in my checked bag and a checked rifle
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October 18, 2018, 06:12 PM | #2 |
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The regs are written by folks that are usually NOT gun savvy.
I think most airlines say in a “factory box”. Never mind that the plastic MTM type boxes protect the ammo 100 times better then cardboard. |
October 18, 2018, 06:18 PM | #3 |
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Exactly
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October 18, 2018, 07:14 PM | #4 | |
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The regulation does not require an ammo maker's OEM packaging. The airline may have their own regulation that does but, more likely, somebody doesn't know how to read. The law is in 49 CFR 175 § 175.10:
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October 20, 2018, 08:29 AM | #5 |
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^^^This^^^
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October 20, 2018, 07:13 PM | #6 |
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At least they stole my ammo on the way home not during the hunt:-)
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October 20, 2018, 07:19 PM | #7 |
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I think a sternly-worded letter to the president of Delta Airlines might be in order. Theft is theft and, since you were not in violation of the law, taking your ammo (and the boxes) was theft.
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October 21, 2018, 11:51 AM | #8 |
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I called them, all i got was we will look into it. Worst than that when i landed they threw my rifle on the luggage carousel. If I had stopped to hit the restroom what would the odds my rifle would have still been there. Everywhere I flown you had to show id and pick up your gun not have it tossed on the belt for anyone to walk off with it
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October 21, 2018, 01:30 PM | #9 |
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Aquila has the answer in post 4. Unfortunately, there’s nothing to be done.
The airline has nothing to do with it anyway. They don’t inspect baggage. That’s TSA. I can tell you from personal experience that the training is constant and specific, and routinely ignored. Small airports are far better than large but even that’s a generalization. Some TSA “officers” will simply make up their own rules. You’re supposed to be able to pack ammo in “unlimited quantities for personal use”, but you’ll find some who say “personal use” has some sort of limit. There’s no implication of such in the rule. Next time, pack your ammo in the same case as your gun. It can only be opened in your presence and you should be the only one with keys. You are NOT supposed to use TSA locks on gun cases. No one will be able to steal your ammo.
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October 21, 2018, 05:14 PM | #10 |
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According to the Safari Club International, Delta adopted new rules for flying with firearms in 2017 ... and it would appear that Delta dod not follow the rules in Dano's case. That's worth a letter (a written U.S. Postal Service letter) to the CEO.
https://www.safariclub.org/what-we-d...hecked-luggage https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ial-items.html Quote:
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October 21, 2018, 11:42 PM | #12 |
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Exactly but I won’t hear a word back about it. When I called about the rifle on the luggage carousel I was told it was the airports responsibility
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IMHO, neither of those is acceptable. |
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October 23, 2018, 09:22 PM | #14 |
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I don't suppose you went through Atlanta did you? A large number of Delta employees there are incompetent and/or rude. In response to a survey request by Delta once, I suggested they fire everybody at the Atlanta airport. I'm still waiting for a response.
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October 23, 2018, 09:37 PM | #15 |
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Brian said it. Don't set yourself up for failure any more. Put your ammo in your locked (with non-TSA locks) gun case and it won't get stolen.
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October 24, 2018, 09:38 AM | #16 |
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I did fly through Atlanta
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October 25, 2018, 02:12 PM | #17 |
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October 25, 2018, 02:22 PM | #18 |
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There is and I was very nice. However it’s never justified to remove legally packaged ammunition or just toss a rifle on the luggage carousel. Really few airports have anyone monitoring who gets the bags. I could have lost the rifle had I not been there to collect it
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October 25, 2018, 02:24 PM | #19 |
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All I did was make them aware of the issues in a kind manner
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