408 Cheytec. To buy, or not to buy...

std7mag · October 2, 2020, 02:27 AM

I found what i believe is a really good deal on a Noreen ULR in 408 Cheytec.
I don't own any big boomers, but must confess the thought of KO2M really interests me.
I have 1 local 1,000 yard range, and 1 not as local.
Rifle does come with a 0 MOA, and a 30 MOA rail.

I obviously don't NEED this rifle, but really kinda want this.

So, what say ye? Buy, or don't buy?

50 shooter · October 2, 2020, 08:20 AM

Is it a complete rifle or just an AR upper?

If you like the .408 CT, have you looked at the .375 CT?

brasscollector · October 2, 2020, 08:58 AM

The ULR is a single-shot, large cal bolt action rifle.

Used in good condition, good bore and you want it??? I have one question for you: when are you picking it up?

std7mag · October 2, 2020, 12:36 PM

Rifle with 2 scope bases, bipod built in.
"50 rounds down the barrel".

Hopefully next Friday.

Scorch · October 3, 2020, 02:00 AM

Only hassle is the bullets, nothing else shoots a .408" diameter bullet.

**44 AMP** · October 3, 2020, 02:56 AM

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"50 rounds down the barrel".

Was the previous owner a little old lady from Pasedena who only shot it after church on Sundays??

Sometimes, when you find a really good deal, you need to ask, WHY is it such a really good deal??

Quote:

I obviously don't NEED this rifle, but really kinda want this.

So, what say ye? Buy, or don't buy?

Your bills paid? Kids got shoes?? You've got the money?? IF yes, then why not?

I don't have the money these days, so a very specialized long range rifle in an uncommon caliber isn't for me. unless the deal was "marked down to free" AND came with at least a half a truck load of ammo/components...

Seriously, IF you can afford it, and you want it (even kind of) go ahead and get it, none of us is getting any younger, living the Roadhouse Blues where "the future's uncertain, and the end is always near...."

**Spats McGee** · October 3, 2020, 05:28 AM

Need, schmeed. If food's on the table and the bills are paid, go for it. It's neat, in a very "everything you need, nothing you don't" kind of way.

kilotanker22 · October 3, 2020, 09:25 AM

I feel like we are the wrong lot to be answering this question. You shall get no resistance from me sir

TXAZ · October 3, 2020, 10:24 AM

Std7
It would appear you are facing a similar quandary many seeking speciality ($$$) weapons have. Acceptance criteria was:
Got the cash to buy it?
Retirement / home / kids paid for or plan to get there?
Wife happy with her new quilter machine/ car / whatever?
Got the cash for operational costs?
Is it what you want?

If yes, do it.

Txhillbilly · October 3, 2020, 10:25 AM

The previous owner probably figured out that firing 50 rounds out of it cost about the same as he paid for the rifle.

The big boomer's are fun as hell to shoot. Your friend's will love you until you want them to help pay for the ammo in order to shoot it.

Go for it, you only live once and big bore rifles as just fun to shoot!

T. O'Heir · October 3, 2020, 01:20 PM

"...really kinda want this..." "I want one." is a reason. Really the only reason you need. Keeping in mind the adage about men, boys and their toys. snicker.
The ammo, brass and dies are horrendously expensive. Graf's shows Perterson and SBR at $142.00 and $97.99 per 20 and 10, respectively. And out of stock.
Midway show only SBR at $116.99 per 10 and as out of stock, No back order.
No brass at Midway. Graf's starts at $44.99(on sale. $54.99 regular) per 20 for Bertram. A "a major U.S. brass manufacturer's" seconds at $128.99 per 100. 50 pieces of Peterson runs $139.99 or 200 for $489.99.
At least you can get it.
Dies run $575.00 for a 2 die set.
https://www.northernshooterssupplies...t-p/408ctb.htm

Scorch · October 3, 2020, 03:04 PM

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Sometimes, when you find a really good deal, you need to ask, WHY is it such a really good deal??

I can tell you why it's for sale. Same reason I got my 8mm Remington Mag in 1985. Rifle, scope, dies, 3 boxes of ammo with only 5 fired. After I pulled the trigger the first time, I understood why only 5 rounds had been fired.

The recoil and muzzle blast on some of theses bad boys is discouraging for even an experienced rifle shooter. And besides, not many of us need anti-materiel capabilities at $10 a shot. A 338 Lapua, 338 Edge, etc, will give you the same long-range capabilities at half the price. Sure, bragging rights, bla bla, but big rifles are a handful and expensive to shoot. But if you want one, none of that matters.

std7mag · October 3, 2020, 04:10 PM

According to the seller he has 2 of these rifles in 408, plus a 50BMG Barrett.
Claimed no need for the second 408.
Guessing finances, or a Mrs is driving the sale.

And i'm quite aware of the expense of operation. One of the things i check out for firearms, vehicles, housing.
Yeah, i could possibly wiggle finances to buy a used Ferrari, but couldn't afford the upkeep.

stagpanther · October 3, 2020, 07:04 PM

I'd love to have one--only problem no practical place for me to shoot one!

std7mag · October 3, 2020, 07:23 PM

Yeah...
That's the major issue i have.

std7mag · October 11, 2020, 08:24 AM

Update.
Well i decided not to buy the 408.
Just nowhere close to me to stretch it's legs. The local 1,000 yard ranges don't want it there.
That and the price of feeding the beast, especially with the powder/primer shortages going on now.

I'm trying to save my money for building a match rifle.
Really hard right now, as i've come accross several hunting rifles i'd love to have also.

**Spats McGee** · October 14, 2020, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by std7mag

Update.
Well i decided not to buy the 408.
Just nowhere close to me to stretch it's legs. The local 1,000 yard ranges don't want it there.
That and the price of feeding the beast, especially with the powder/primer shortages going on now.

I'm trying to save my money for building a match rifle.
Really hard right now, as i've come accross several hunting rifles i'd love to have also.

Even though I'm one of the ones that said to buy it, that seems pretty reasonable.

Scorch · October 15, 2020, 08:51 PM

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Some ranges really hate the bigger guns.

It's not that they hate the big guns, they hate having to repair their facilities after some gun slob goes out and punches holes in their 3/4" gongs and cracks concrete abutments and digs holes in the berms. You got a big boomer, be considerate of their facilities, find a 1,000 yard range that can handle anti-materiel rifles. Simple.

std7mag · October 16, 2020, 05:40 AM

Savage target action on it's way.
After much thought, and conversation with other bench rest shooters, i went with the dual port.
That sent to local FFL.
Ground recoil lug, trued nut, Shilen barrel being shipped to my house.
30" chambered in 7mm-08 which i will ream to 7mm-08AI. 1:9 twist.
Finished OD at muzzle 0.900".

Then off to get a stock made for it.

October 2, 2020, 02:27 AM	#1
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	408 Cheytec. To buy, or not to buy... I found what i believe is a really good deal on a Noreen ULR in 408 Cheytec. I don't own any big boomers, but must confess the thought of KO2M really interests me. I have 1 local 1,000 yard range, and 1 not as local. Rifle does come with a 0 MOA, and a 30 MOA rail. I obviously don't NEED this rifle, but really kinda want this. So, what say ye? Buy, or don't buy? __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

October 2, 2020, 08:20 AM	#2
50 shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2002 Location: SoCal PRK Posts: 986	Is it a complete rifle or just an AR upper? If you like the .408 CT, have you looked at the .375 CT? __________________ I see the world thru bloodshot eyes Streets filled with blood from distant lies The dogs of war never compromise, No time for rearranging.

October 2, 2020, 08:58 AM	#3
brasscollector Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2015 Posts: 526	The ULR is a single-shot, large cal bolt action rifle. Used in good condition, good bore and you want it??? I have one question for you: when are you picking it up? __________________ He may look dumb, but that's just a disguise. -Charlie Daniels

October 2, 2020, 12:36 PM	#4
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Rifle with 2 scope bases, bipod built in. "50 rounds down the barrel". Hopefully next Friday. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope... Last edited by std7mag; October 2, 2020 at 04:19 PM.

October 3, 2020, 02:00 AM	#5
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Only hassle is the bullets, nothing else shoots a .408" diameter bullet. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

October 3, 2020, 05:28 AM	#7
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	Need, schmeed. If food's on the table and the bills are paid, go for it. It's neat, in a very "everything you need, nothing you don't" kind of way. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

October 3, 2020, 09:25 AM	#8
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	I feel like we are the wrong lot to be answering this question. You shall get no resistance from me sir __________________ “We do not seek peace in order to be at war, but we go to war that we may have peace. Be peaceful, therefore, in warring, so that you may vanquish those whom you war against, and bring them to the prosperity of peace. – St. Augustine

October 3, 2020, 10:24 AM	#9
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	Std7 It would appear you are facing a similar quandary many seeking speciality ($$$) weapons have. Acceptance criteria was: Got the cash to buy it? Retirement / home / kids paid for or plan to get there? Wife happy with her new quilter machine/ car / whatever? Got the cash for operational costs? Is it what you want? If yes, do it. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

October 3, 2020, 10:25 AM	#10
Txhillbilly Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2008 Posts: 512	The previous owner probably figured out that firing 50 rounds out of it cost about the same as he paid for the rifle. The big boomer's are fun as hell to shoot. Your friend's will love you until you want them to help pay for the ammo in order to shoot it. Go for it, you only live once and big bore rifles as just fun to shoot!

October 3, 2020, 01:20 PM	#11
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...really kinda want this..." "I want one." is a reason. Really the only reason you need. Keeping in mind the adage about men, boys and their toys. snicker. The ammo, brass and dies are horrendously expensive. Graf's shows Perterson and SBR at $142.00 and $97.99 per 20 and 10, respectively. And out of stock. Midway show only SBR at $116.99 per 10 and as out of stock, No back order. No brass at Midway. Graf's starts at $44.99(on sale. $54.99 regular) per 20 for Bertram. A "a major U.S. brass manufacturer's" seconds at $128.99 per 100. 50 pieces of Peterson runs $139.99 or 200 for $489.99. At least you can get it. Dies run $575.00 for a 2 die set. https://www.northernshooterssupplies...t-p/408ctb.htm __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

October 3, 2020, 04:10 PM	#13
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	According to the seller he has 2 of these rifles in 408, plus a 50BMG Barrett. Claimed no need for the second 408. Guessing finances, or a Mrs is driving the sale. And i'm quite aware of the expense of operation. One of the things i check out for firearms, vehicles, housing. Yeah, i could possibly wiggle finances to buy a used Ferrari, but couldn't afford the upkeep. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

October 3, 2020, 07:04 PM	#14
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,789	I'd love to have one--only problem no practical place for me to shoot one! __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

October 3, 2020, 07:23 PM	#15
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Yeah... That's the major issue i have. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

October 11, 2020, 08:24 AM	#16
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Update. Well i decided not to buy the 408. Just nowhere close to me to stretch it's legs. The local 1,000 yard ranges don't want it there. That and the price of feeding the beast, especially with the powder/primer shortages going on now. I'm trying to save my money for building a match rifle. Really hard right now, as i've come accross several hunting rifles i'd love to have also. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

October 16, 2020, 05:40 AM	#19
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Savage target action on it's way. After much thought, and conversation with other bench rest shooters, i went with the dual port. That sent to local FFL. Ground recoil lug, trued nut, Shilen barrel being shipped to my house. 30" chambered in 7mm-08 which i will ream to 7mm-08AI. 1:9 twist. Finished OD at muzzle 0.900". Then off to get a stock made for it. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...