.357mag/.38 Spl Leverguns scarce these days!

deerslayer303 · December 21, 2017, 07:54 PM

I'm aggravated! What in the world is going on! First Remlin isn't producing a .357mag as of now, Rossi seems to have dropped the .357 R92, it isn't on the website. Seems the only choice I have is a FACKIN Henry with that STOOPID tubular loading. IMHO that CRAP doesn't belong on ANYTHING CENTER FIRE!!! Its absolutely ridiculous on a big bore lever gun. Its clumsy and SIMPLY doesn't belong. If the Henry had a side loading gate I would have one already. I guess I'll look and see if Winchester or Browning is still producing something. If not, I guess I'll bend over and take it up the tailpipe on a used Marlin.

Thanks for listening to my rant! I hope you all have a Merry Christmas!

Targa · December 21, 2017, 08:20 PM

I would look at a Uberti.

WW2 · December 21, 2017, 08:43 PM

Cimarron Firearms https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/pr...ml?caliber=544

deerslayer303 · December 21, 2017, 09:09 PM

Thanks for the recommendations guys! I had my heart set on either the '92 action or a Marlin. But the '73 may be the only option at this point, new that is.

smee78 · December 21, 2017, 09:29 PM

I only find them when I don't have any money in my pocket. When I got money they are no where to be found so I understand your pain.

shootniron · December 21, 2017, 09:33 PM

You do have options...USED GUNS!

Targa · December 21, 2017, 09:41 PM

Why Rossi discontinued their .357 92's has me shaking my head. I certainly don't get it but I guess they have their reasons.

deerslayer303 · December 21, 2017, 10:15 PM

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Why Rossi discontinued their .357 92's has me shaking my head

Me too, Jump on the web to order one and NONE to be found! Disgusted was an understatement! I'm currently eyeballing the Miroku Winchester. Seems I can still get one of those.

tlm225 · December 21, 2017, 11:49 PM

Yep. I called Marlin in June 2016 and asked if they were putting the 1894C back in production. A pleasant young lady told me they were looking at August 2016. I called again this summer. This time I was told that they had no plans to produce it. Now I have to decide if I want one badly enough to cough up $800 - $1000 to get a decent 1894C.

DPris · December 22, 2017, 03:09 AM

You were told wrong.
Marlin is working on a re-intro of the .357, and you may be pleasantly surprised if what they have planned for it comes to be.

And.....don't give up on Henry.
Denis

Model12Win · December 22, 2017, 04:10 AM

Denis we appreciate you but so far these have been empty words. Marlin has been saying this for many years.

Clearly, there is little demand for .357 lever guns. New Marlins and Rossis can both be had in .44 magnum and .45 Colt, they must obviously not be selling enough .357s to even keel them in production.

Henry lever guns are fantastic. The OP has no basis in reality for putting down the Henry loading tube. In fact if you stop and think it through, you'll find it far better than a loading gate. They've been making lever guns since the 1860s, and know how to do it right and are American owned and operated.

eastbank · December 22, 2017, 06:15 AM

the original henrys are not related in any way shape or form to the new so called henrys. buy them if you want, but not be cause of hype that's not true. eastbank.

deerslayer303 · December 22, 2017, 06:22 AM

No basis in reality? Dude, I sell Henrys EVERY day! I've shot the Big boy line on more than one occasion. They shoot great and have a very smooth action. But the tube loading is simply not my cup of tea. So the reality is, I don't care much for it at all. Which is the whole reason I wrote "IMHO" before I made the statement.

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VoodooMountain · December 22, 2017, 09:14 AM

Deer Slayer,

He was referring to the fact that Henry is not the same company it was in the 19th century. It is only the name that has remained the same.

deerslayer303 · December 22, 2017, 09:41 AM

My post was in response to Model12. Eastbank's post is fact no disputing that

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Joe-ker · December 22, 2017, 10:02 AM

It's getting to be like a broken record the way we (own a bib boy .357 myself) bitch about the tube mag.

It is clumsy--- like when you pull it too far and it drops on the ground. Lol

Gates pinch fingers and that sucks too but I'd gladly go for that over a tube.

But these Henry's are excellent guns. MAGA

Targa · December 22, 2017, 10:18 AM

I really like Henry's, the tube fed mag does not bother me and every now and then I find it to be a nice change from loading gates, with that said it DOES NOT MATTER!! One thing is certain, anytime a thread is posted about not wanting a Henry because of the tube feed someome is going to try and come to Henry's rescue to convince them that their opinion is wrong and that they should like the tube feed..

kraigwy · December 22, 2017, 11:31 AM

This surprises me. I have a Marlin 38/357 so I really haven't been looking.

I would think it would be a huge seller, using cast bullets I can shoot mine cheaper then shooting 22s at todays prices. Since I have tons of brass it cost me about .049 a round for powder and primers. That figures $2.45 per fifty. A little more then half of what I find for 22s around here. 357s a bit more. .085 per round or 4.25 per 50, right at the price of 22s.

Not to mention they are a heck of a lot of fun and with 38s a great rabbit gun.

Somebody (manufacturer) is missing the boat.

DPris · December 22, 2017, 02:32 PM

Three years ago, Marlin was working on the .357 re-intro.
They were saying it'd be out in September of that year.
They sent me a pre-pro sample which I wrote up in a Kindle eBook.

The project was delayed, the gun did not (obviously) come out in September of that year.

Since then, I've kept up with a Marlin/Remington project manager. The latest from him, a couple months back, was that whatever the problems that have plagued the .357 project are, it's been very frustrating inside the company, because resources that have been allocated to it are bottlenecking other projects.

I can't say what the plans are for the .357, exactly, but I will go a shade outside the confidentiality requested & say they intend to do more than one standard offering in it.
What they ARE planning, if they can ever get it together, I think people will like.

And the timeframe "should" be not all that far off.
Best I can tell you.

And again- don't give up on Henry.
There's another hint.

Just might be worth waiting a bit longer on both companies.
Denis

deerslayer303 · December 22, 2017, 03:34 PM

Thanks a ton Denis. We are a Henry Dealer and I have no problem waiting, just got a little frustrated is all. Sounds like something good is coming. I love everything about a big boy Steel. Just not the tube. My Marlins are sweet, after having the loading port massaged and a lighter spring put on the gate.

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DPris · December 22, 2017, 04:10 PM

There are several somethings good coming from Henry.
Imperato's very aggressively expanding his line-up.

It may take some time for the new stuff to get through the pipeline to dealers, but they're happening.

I had pre-pro samples of the two .410s, a single-shot shotgun & a single-shot rifle here.
The quality is built-in, just a matter of seeing how the market reacts.

The un-announced stuff will please a BUNCH of people.
Again- it'll take some time, but patience now should be rewarded later.

New variations in .357 in particular, and something else that'll filter in slowly to the general levergun line.
Denis

deerslayer303 · December 22, 2017, 04:34 PM

Yes, bring on the .410. The word is out and I've had more than one customer come in and specifically request the .410. COOL BEANS, I'm all calmed down now, LOL.

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MJFlores · December 22, 2017, 05:04 PM

There are all sorts of .357 mag lever guns on the market, brand new. The problem is, they're nice guns and cost a premium. Check Winchester....beautiful Miroku made rifles.

VTRich · December 22, 2017, 07:14 PM

I noticed this new one from Marlin the other day. Shows out of stock, so maybe they just haven't been released yet?

http://shop2.gzanders.com/rifles/mar...-laminate.html

DPris · December 22, 2017, 07:58 PM

No new Marlin .357 has been released yet.
Denis

December 21, 2017, 07:54 PM	#1
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	.357mag/.38 Spl Leverguns scarce these days! I'm aggravated! What in the world is going on! First Remlin isn't producing a .357mag as of now, Rossi seems to have dropped the .357 R92, it isn't on the website. Seems the only choice I have is a FACKIN Henry with that STOOPID tubular loading. IMHO that CRAP doesn't belong on ANYTHING CENTER FIRE!!! Its absolutely ridiculous on a big bore lever gun. Its clumsy and SIMPLY doesn't belong. If the Henry had a side loading gate I would have one already. I guess I'll look and see if Winchester or Browning is still producing something. If not, I guess I'll bend over and take it up the tailpipe on a used Marlin. Thanks for listening to my rant! I hope you all have a Merry Christmas! __________________ "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson

December 21, 2017, 09:09 PM	#4
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	Thanks for the recommendations guys! I had my heart set on either the '92 action or a Marlin. But the '73 may be the only option at this point, new that is. __________________ "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson

December 21, 2017, 09:29 PM	#5
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	I only find them when I don't have any money in my pocket. When I got money they are no where to be found so I understand your pain. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

December 21, 2017, 11:49 PM	#9
tlm225 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 962	Yep. I called Marlin in June 2016 and asked if they were putting the 1894C back in production. A pleasant young lady told me they were looking at August 2016. I called again this summer. This time I was told that they had no plans to produce it. Now I have to decide if I want one badly enough to cough up $800 - $1000 to get a decent 1894C. __________________ All that is neccessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

December 22, 2017, 06:22 AM	#13
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	No basis in reality? Dude, I sell Henrys EVERY day! I've shot the Big boy line on more than one occasion. They shoot great and have a very smooth action. But the tube loading is simply not my cup of tea. So the reality is, I don't care much for it at all. Which is the whole reason I wrote "IMHO" before I made the statement. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Last edited by deerslayer303; December 22, 2017 at 06:36 AM.

December 21, 2017, 08:20 PM	#2
Targa Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Posts: 2,084	I would look at a Uberti.

December 21, 2017, 09:33 PM	#6
shootniron Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,599	You do have options...USED GUNS!

December 21, 2017, 09:41 PM	#7
Targa Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Posts: 2,084	Why Rossi discontinued their .357 92's has me shaking my head. I certainly don't get it but I guess they have their reasons.

December 22, 2017, 03:09 AM	#10
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	You were told wrong. Marlin is working on a re-intro of the .357, and you may be pleasantly surprised if what they have planned for it comes to be. And.....don't give up on Henry. Denis

December 22, 2017, 04:10 AM	#11
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Denis we appreciate you but so far these have been empty words. Marlin has been saying this for many years. Clearly, there is little demand for .357 lever guns. New Marlins and Rossis can both be had in .44 magnum and .45 Colt, they must obviously not be selling enough .357s to even keel them in production. Henry lever guns are fantastic. The OP has no basis in reality for putting down the Henry loading tube. In fact if you stop and think it through, you'll find it far better than a loading gate. They've been making lever guns since the 1860s, and know how to do it right and are American owned and operated.

December 22, 2017, 06:15 AM	#12
eastbank Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2008 Location: pa. Posts: 2,450	the original henrys are not related in any way shape or form to the new so called henrys. buy them if you want, but not be cause of hype that's not true. eastbank.

December 22, 2017, 09:14 AM	#14
VoodooMountain Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2014 Posts: 179	Deer Slayer, He was referring to the fact that Henry is not the same company it was in the 19th century. It is only the name that has remained the same.

December 22, 2017, 09:41 AM	#15
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	My post was in response to Model12. Eastbank's post is fact no disputing that Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

December 22, 2017, 10:02 AM	#16
Joe-ker Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2016 Location: North Iowa Posts: 247	It's getting to be like a broken record the way we (own a bib boy .357 myself) bitch about the tube mag. It is clumsy--- like when you pull it too far and it drops on the ground. Lol Gates pinch fingers and that sucks too but I'd gladly go for that over a tube. But these Henry's are excellent guns. MAGA __________________ From my cold dead hands.....

December 22, 2017, 10:18 AM	#17
Targa Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Posts: 2,084	I really like Henry's, the tube fed mag does not bother me and every now and then I find it to be a nice change from loading gates, with that said it DOES NOT MATTER!! One thing is certain, anytime a thread is posted about not wanting a Henry because of the tube feed someome is going to try and come to Henry's rescue to convince them that their opinion is wrong and that they should like the tube feed..

December 22, 2017, 11:31 AM	#18
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	This surprises me. I have a Marlin 38/357 so I really haven't been looking. I would think it would be a huge seller, using cast bullets I can shoot mine cheaper then shooting 22s at todays prices. Since I have tons of brass it cost me about .049 a round for powder and primers. That figures $2.45 per fifty. A little more then half of what I find for 22s around here. 357s a bit more. .085 per round or 4.25 per 50, right at the price of 22s. Not to mention they are a heck of a lot of fun and with 38s a great rabbit gun. Somebody (manufacturer) is missing the boat. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

December 22, 2017, 02:32 PM	#19
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Three years ago, Marlin was working on the .357 re-intro. They were saying it'd be out in September of that year. They sent me a pre-pro sample which I wrote up in a Kindle eBook. The project was delayed, the gun did not (obviously) come out in September of that year. Since then, I've kept up with a Marlin/Remington project manager. The latest from him, a couple months back, was that whatever the problems that have plagued the .357 project are, it's been very frustrating inside the company, because resources that have been allocated to it are bottlenecking other projects. I can't say what the plans are for the .357, exactly, but I will go a shade outside the confidentiality requested & say they intend to do more than one standard offering in it. What they ARE planning, if they can ever get it together, I think people will like. And the timeframe "should" be not all that far off. Best I can tell you. And again- don't give up on Henry. There's another hint. Just might be worth waiting a bit longer on both companies. Denis

December 22, 2017, 03:34 PM	#20
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	Thanks a ton Denis. We are a Henry Dealer and I have no problem waiting, just got a little frustrated is all. Sounds like something good is coming. I love everything about a big boy Steel. Just not the tube. My Marlins are sweet, after having the loading port massaged and a lighter spring put on the gate. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

December 22, 2017, 04:10 PM	#21
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	There are several somethings good coming from Henry. Imperato's very aggressively expanding his line-up. It may take some time for the new stuff to get through the pipeline to dealers, but they're happening. I had pre-pro samples of the two .410s, a single-shot shotgun & a single-shot rifle here. The quality is built-in, just a matter of seeing how the market reacts. The un-announced stuff will please a BUNCH of people. Again- it'll take some time, but patience now should be rewarded later. New variations in .357 in particular, and something else that'll filter in slowly to the general levergun line. Denis

December 22, 2017, 04:34 PM	#22
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	Yes, bring on the .410. The word is out and I've had more than one customer come in and specifically request the .410. COOL BEANS, I'm all calmed down now, LOL. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

December 22, 2017, 05:04 PM	#23
MJFlores Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2013 Posts: 539	There are all sorts of .357 mag lever guns on the market, brand new. The problem is, they're nice guns and cost a premium. Check Winchester....beautiful Miroku made rifles.

December 22, 2017, 07:14 PM	#24
VTRich Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 288	I noticed this new one from Marlin the other day. Shows out of stock, so maybe they just haven't been released yet? http://shop2.gzanders.com/rifles/mar...-laminate.html

December 22, 2017, 07:58 PM	#25
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	No new Marlin .357 has been released yet. Denis