speer deep curls are gone?

tahunua001 · October 21, 2014, 05:19 PM

supposedly, the deep curl has been discontinued for good... this is a bummer because that is my absolute favorite bullet option for .308 cartridges... now I guess I'll have to sit around and hope hornady stops making exclusively 165gr Amax and goes back to making interbonds. anyone else feel the same?

RC20 · October 21, 2014, 10:11 PM

Any source? We are still looking but the lack of them says you are right,

FrankenMauser · October 22, 2014, 12:46 AM

All Deep Curl bullets in the rifle line were discontinued prior to January 2014. They never made a formal announcement. They simply told distributors, "You won't be getting any more."
Deep Curl bullets for handguns are a bit more tricky. Many have been discontinued altogether, but some live on only in loaded ammunition.

ATK is making so many changes to the Speer line of components and ammunition, ever 2-3 years, that it seems like they're trying to alienate customers (reloaders in particular) on purpose...

twobit · October 22, 2014, 08:08 AM

Hope this is not true. I love to reload 45 colt with 250 grain deep curls.

FrankenMauser · October 22, 2014, 04:49 PM

'Tis true. Love those loads while you can, and try to scrounge up what Deep Curls you can, before people start treating them like gold.

...Which is the opposite of what I'm going to do. I never actually worked up any loads for the Deep Curls that I've got (.44 cal). So, I plan to sell them to one of the guys on the MarlinOwners 444 Marlin forum, that thinks they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.
It's a win-win-win, in my mind:
A) Whomever ends up with them will be happy to have a better supply.
B) I don't have to waste time working up loads for bullets that are now nearly impossible to locate.
C) One less product for which ATK will get my money...

trobin · October 23, 2014, 08:54 AM

Midsouthshooters has .308 170gr

RC20 · October 23, 2014, 12:59 PM

hot core not deep curl I believe

grubbylabs · October 23, 2014, 01:31 PM

Hey Frankenmauser, where in 1B do you live? I used to live and still have a house in downtown Pokey.

MEATSAW · October 23, 2014, 02:53 PM

Likely because plated rifle bullets have not quite lived up to performance -- you just can't push them as fast as jacketed bullets. The handgun ones are fantastic, (Gold Dot anyone?) but rifle still has a lot of kinks to work out. I don't like beta testing on the public!

tahunua001 · October 23, 2014, 05:10 PM

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Midsouthshooters has .308 170gr

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hot core not deep curl I believe

correct unfortunately, deep curls, if I recall correctly were only available in 150 or 180 grains for 30 cal.

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you just can't push them as fast as jacketed bullets

really? I've had them up to 3200 FPS with no problems.

trobin · October 23, 2014, 09:57 PM

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FrankenMauser · October 24, 2014, 01:16 AM

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Hey Frankenmauser, where in 1B do you live? I used to live and still have a house in downtown Pokey.

Pokey. East side. Just below the snobs and bankrupt idiots that think a big house is more important than planning for the future.

buck460XVR · October 27, 2014, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by FrankenMauser:
Deep Curl bullets for handguns are a bit more tricky. Many have been discontinued altogether, but some live on only in loaded ammunition.

This is not true as per communication with Speer. Rifle Deep Curls yes, handgun Deep Curls are still in production and none have been discontinued. Like many bullet manufacturers, production because of the component shortage has shifted to those components with the highest demand. Revolver hunting bullets are down the ladder as for demand and thus, some may not be in current production. The .452, 300 gr Deep Curl is my go to bullet outta the .460 S&W. Have a few hundred in reserve and on the waiting list at several sites for when they come in.

October 21, 2014, 05:19 PM	#1
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	speer deep curls are gone? supposedly, the deep curl has been discontinued for good... this is a bummer because that is my absolute favorite bullet option for .308 cartridges... now I guess I'll have to sit around and hope hornady stops making exclusively 165gr Amax and goes back to making interbonds. anyone else feel the same? __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

October 22, 2014, 12:46 AM	#3
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	All Deep Curl bullets in the rifle line were discontinued prior to January 2014. They never made a formal announcement. They simply told distributors, "You won't be getting any more." Deep Curl bullets for handguns are a bit more tricky. Many have been discontinued altogether, but some live on only in loaded ammunition. ATK is making so many changes to the Speer line of components and ammunition, ever 2-3 years, that it seems like they're trying to alienate customers (reloaders in particular) on purpose... __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

October 22, 2014, 08:08 AM	#4
twobit Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2010 Location: Coyote Creak, SW Texas Posts: 597	Hope this is not true. I love to reload 45 colt with 250 grain deep curls. __________________ Twobit, Strive to live up to the opinion that your dog has of you.

October 22, 2014, 04:49 PM	#5
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	'Tis true. Love those loads while you can, and try to scrounge up what Deep Curls you can, before people start treating them like gold. ...Which is the opposite of what I'm going to do. I never actually worked up any loads for the Deep Curls that I've got (.44 cal). So, I plan to sell them to one of the guys on the MarlinOwners 444 Marlin forum, that thinks they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's a win-win-win, in my mind: A) Whomever ends up with them will be happy to have a better supply. B) I don't have to waste time working up loads for bullets that are now nearly impossible to locate. C) One less product for which ATK will get my money... __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

October 23, 2014, 01:31 PM	#8
grubbylabs Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2009 Location: Hansen Idaho Posts: 1,465	Hey Frankenmauser, where in 1B do you live? I used to live and still have a house in downtown Pokey. __________________ * (Swinging club) Whack! whack! whack! * Nope, the old nag's still dead . (Capt Charlie)

October 21, 2014, 10:11 PM	#2
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Any source? We are still looking but the lack of them says you are right,

October 23, 2014, 08:54 AM	#6
trobin Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 133	Midsouthshooters has .308 170gr

October 23, 2014, 12:59 PM	#7
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	hot core not deep curl I believe

October 23, 2014, 02:53 PM	#9
MEATSAW Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Location: Burnet, TX Posts: 727	Likely because plated rifle bullets have not quite lived up to performance -- you just can't push them as fast as jacketed bullets. The handgun ones are fantastic, (Gold Dot anyone?) but rifle still has a lot of kinks to work out. I don't like beta testing on the public! __________________ Veteran OEF (2002) and OIF1 (2003) - US Army Member of the Burnet Gun Fighters, Inc. and of course the NRA Oregon State University alum -- Go Beavs!

October 23, 2014, 09:57 PM	#11
trobin Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 133	https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...oint_100_Count