HD training

kx592 · October 17, 2009, 10:40 PM

Alot of guys on here who are specifically interested in HD such as my self. I am fairly new to firearms but got very comfortable with my mossy 590a1 and 870 on the skeet field and target range. My question is what do you guys do as training for home invasion. Say a guy breaks in in the middle of the night.How do you train for the situation and such. Look forward to responses

JerseyDrez · October 18, 2009, 02:41 AM

Most local ranges have training classes for those types of situations.

All it takes is a quick phone call and, depending on which employee you talk to, you should get the answer 20mins later...as 99.9% of gun shop employees love talking/shooting the breeze/asking questions about firearms

Lee Lapin · October 18, 2009, 08:15 AM

Probably the most widely available class is the NRA's Personal Protection In The Home course- see http://www.nrainstructors.org/CourseCatalog.aspx . There's also a "Find A Course" tool on that page that will let you see if anyone near you is teaching it.

IF not, there's a DVD of the classroom part at http://materials.nrahq.org/go/produc...tid=ES%2026840 .

That course is the best starting point I know of...

lpl

Glenn E. Meyer · October 18, 2009, 10:34 AM

If the OP tells us where he or she is located, we can probably recommend some good trainers. Lee gives an excellent generic recommendation.

However, I wouldn't ask a gun store employee about tactics and laws and assume it's reasonable advice. That would really depend. I've heard some strange things in the store.

27Veer · October 18, 2009, 06:15 PM

I'd start by reading Mas Ayoob's In the Gravest Extreme.

Mello2u · October 19, 2009, 08:11 AM

A technique I learned at Gunsite's API 260 (shotgun) course was to carry the shotgun in the following manner when in condition orange or red. I am assuming a right handed shooter and the use of a Remington 870 12 gauge pump shotgun.

The front sight is just below the line of sight of the dominant eye, the right hand holds the stock with the trigger finger on the safety button, the left hand holds the fore-end stock of the Remington 870 pump, there is a round in the chamber and the shotgun is ready to fire.

Upon identifying a threat, the shooter swiftly moves the butt to his shoulder while at the same time clicking off the safety and moving the trigger finger to the trigger. When the butt comes in full contact with the shoulder, the front sight should be on target, and the trigger is pressed to deliver the load on target. From target identification to shot delivered it should take under 0.5 seconds.

fm2 · October 22, 2009, 10:15 PM

Rangemaster in Memphis( http://www.rangemaster.com/ ) had a class covering that material. It is called Full Spectrum Self-Defense.

Shawn Dodson · October 23, 2009, 12:14 PM

With a shotgun, I presume?

My shotgun is my barricade gun. I don't use it if I have to maneuver through the house. I use a handgun instead. The shotgun stays in the bedroom.

Both my shotgun and handgun are stored in a V-Line closet vault, which is bolted into the wall of the master bedroom, and is equipped with a push button combintation lock.

"Say a guy breaks in in the middle of the night"? The plan is for me to arm myself, aqcuire a position of advantage, and shout a verbal challenge to assess the threat - "Who's there?!" No answer? "Who's there, what are you doing?" If necessary followed by - "I have a gun, I've called police, leave now!"

If I have to maneuver through the house to gather family I do it while armed with a handgun while the wife holds down the fort in the master bedroom with the shotgun.

markj · October 23, 2009, 04:45 PM

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Say a guy breaks in in the middle of the night

He would be a heck of a man, he would have to get thru 4 large dogs, disable the motion detectors from a distance, in other words I will be aware of him before he ever gets to the house. It has happened last summer. Just kids stealing gas tho (we live out in the country)

October 17, 2009, 10:40 PM	#1
kx592 Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2009 Posts: 645	HD training Alot of guys on here who are specifically interested in HD such as my self. I am fairly new to firearms but got very comfortable with my mossy 590a1 and 870 on the skeet field and target range. My question is what do you guys do as training for home invasion. Say a guy breaks in in the middle of the night.How do you train for the situation and such. Look forward to responses

October 18, 2009, 02:41 AM	#2
JerseyDrez Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2009 Location: Hmmm? Posts: 510	Most local ranges have training classes for those types of situations. All it takes is a quick phone call and, depending on which employee you talk to, you should get the answer 20mins later...as 99.9% of gun shop employees love talking/shooting the breeze/asking questions about firearms __________________ "I don't know what situation you'd be in where you'd be facing a bad guy and he'd have the time to notice your laser shaking and evaluate you as having low confidence. "

October 18, 2009, 08:15 AM	#3
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	Probably the most widely available class is the NRA's Personal Protection In The Home course- see http://www.nrainstructors.org/CourseCatalog.aspx . There's also a "Find A Course" tool on that page that will let you see if anyone near you is teaching it. IF not, there's a DVD of the classroom part at http://materials.nrahq.org/go/produc...tid=ES%2026840 . That course is the best starting point I know of... lpl __________________ Mindset - Skillset - Toolset. In that order! Attitude and skill will get you through times of no gear, better than gear will get you through times of no attitude and no skill.

October 18, 2009, 10:34 AM	#4
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	If the OP tells us where he or she is located, we can probably recommend some good trainers. Lee gives an excellent generic recommendation. However, I wouldn't ask a gun store employee about tactics and laws and assume it's reasonable advice. That would really depend. I've heard some strange things in the store. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

October 19, 2009, 08:11 AM	#6
Mello2u Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,424	A technique I learned at Gunsite's API 260 (shotgun) course was to carry the shotgun in the following manner when in condition orange or red. I am assuming a right handed shooter and the use of a Remington 870 12 gauge pump shotgun. The front sight is just below the line of sight of the dominant eye, the right hand holds the stock with the trigger finger on the safety button, the left hand holds the fore-end stock of the Remington 870 pump, there is a round in the chamber and the shotgun is ready to fire. Upon identifying a threat, the shooter swiftly moves the butt to his shoulder while at the same time clicking off the safety and moving the trigger finger to the trigger. When the butt comes in full contact with the shoulder, the front sight should be on target, and the trigger is pressed to deliver the load on target. From target identification to shot delivered it should take under 0.5 seconds. __________________ NRA Life Member - Orange Gunsite Member - NRA Certified Pistol Instructor "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." Frederic Bastiat

October 18, 2009, 06:15 PM	#5
27Veer Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2009 Location: Las Cruces Posts: 117	I'd start by reading Mas Ayoob's In the Gravest Extreme.

October 22, 2009, 10:15 PM	#7
fm2 Member Join Date: September 25, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 47	Rangemaster in Memphis( http://www.rangemaster.com/ ) had a class covering that material. It is called Full Spectrum Self-Defense.

October 23, 2009, 12:14 PM	#8
Shawn Dodson Junior member Join Date: December 16, 1998 Location: Titusville, FL, USA Posts: 1,030	With a shotgun, I presume? My shotgun is my barricade gun. I don't use it if I have to maneuver through the house. I use a handgun instead. The shotgun stays in the bedroom. Both my shotgun and handgun are stored in a V-Line closet vault, which is bolted into the wall of the master bedroom, and is equipped with a push button combintation lock. "Say a guy breaks in in the middle of the night"? The plan is for me to arm myself, aqcuire a position of advantage, and shout a verbal challenge to assess the threat - "Who's there?!" No answer? "Who's there, what are you doing?" If necessary followed by - "I have a gun, I've called police, leave now!" If I have to maneuver through the house to gather family I do it while armed with a handgun while the wife holds down the fort in the master bedroom with the shotgun.