Micro Roni?

Model12Win · August 6, 2018, 09:01 PM

Anyone have a Micro Roni? Supposed to convert a Glock into a little baby carbine, 100% legal not NFA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j_LLfQIE8c

Thoughts?

FrankenMauser · August 7, 2018, 01:30 AM

Not a carbine.
Still, technically, a pistol.
Note the "brace" used in the chassis.

Nothing provided by the 'chassis', other than providing an NFA-legal forward grip.
No velocity gains.
No accuracy gains.

Novelty for people that like the bang switch.
...With potential legal implications when brace use gets "re-interpreted" again.
...My opinion.

Areoflyer09 · August 7, 2018, 08:10 AM

I’ve shot one that a friend had.

Glocks and I just don’t get along. I can shoot them to an “acceptable” point of accuracy but I’m generally working much harder to do so than I am with other choices. Combination of shape, unnaturally feeling and lack of time spent with them. When I’ve used the Roni kits, it’s easier for me to reach acceptable levels of accuracy then when not using one.

The Roni is the only reason I would buy a Glock.

FrakenMauser has valid points though. The inherit accuracy of the gun isn’t changed and it’s not picking up any velocity. Instead, you get the front grip ability which can help the human aspect of the accuracy.

RickB · August 7, 2018, 10:57 AM

There's an extensive review of the Micro RONI (macaroni?) in the issue of Firearms News I was reading over the weekend.
If I still have it, I'll send it to you.
PM your address if interested.

stagpanther · August 7, 2018, 11:13 AM

Is that a San Francisco treat?

RickB · August 8, 2018, 01:15 PM

I'm not a Glock fan, and have no experience with the RONI, but if the point is to turn a handgun into a sort-of carbine, I'd prefer that the base gun be the one with the longest barrel, rather than an already-compact gun like the G19.

How about a not-as-micro RONI for the G17L, so the additional 100-150fps of the longer barrel can be exploited?

I would think the practical improvement in accuracy could be considerable, regardless of the mechanical accuracy of the base gun.
Along the lines of the M1 Carbine replacing the M1911A1 in some instances; maybe the difference in putting accurate fire on a target fifteen feet away isn't significant, but if you're shooting at something fifty yards away?

tahunua001 · August 9, 2018, 07:41 PM

you seek to improve accuracy by snapping your handgun into 3 pounds of extra, and useless plastic that costs $500 and requires you to purchase some other form of sights...

I was once enamored with their model that actually gave you a buttstock and "barrel" that gave the minimum OAL to make it legal without an SBR stamp, but they discontinued it in favor of their SBR variants. I think I would rather just get a mechtech upper, assuming this was for a glock or 1911. at least then you get a full rifle, instead of a heavier handgun.

jonnyc · August 9, 2018, 08:27 PM

Got one at the shop, if anyone's interested. I can't even figure out how to open the thing.

Rangegod · August 10, 2018, 10:00 AM

I like mine. I have one of my G19's dedicated to it. Makes a nice truck gun, as you can pull the Glock out in <10 seconds if you don't want to leave it behind. If you buy one make sure it has the new longer brace released this year at SHOT. I back fitted mine and it made all the difference in the world. I got an email ad from CAA not long ago offering BOGO sale on the original version.

fourbore · August 10, 2018, 11:18 AM

Glock should make a real carbine. I bet it would be better on all measures than the Ruger PC. Measures being: light, reliable and accurate. Even the excellent KelTec Sub 2000, might get a run for money.

Edit:
Never mind, I just did a google. They make or introduced an AR style glock rifle. Figures. KelTec has no need to worry.

tahunua001 · August 10, 2018, 12:29 PM

uh? glock doesn't make rifles.

also, not to be that guy, but it's Keltec, not Kaltec.. the California Institute of Technology doesn't do to much work with firearms.

fourbore · August 10, 2018, 02:40 PM

Ohhh, I will fix the spelling. I found a blurb on the web, let me see.... here it is-

https://www.guns.com/2013/04/01/excl...-for-nra-expo/

I did not dig into this. Old news, fake news, cancelled news, future news?

Not to nit pick back, Cal Tech is not Kal Tec

tahunua001 · August 10, 2018, 04:08 PM

it was apparently an april fools joke from 2013

fourbore · August 10, 2018, 05:11 PM

Some days it better to just shut up and read!

tahunua001 · August 10, 2018, 05:23 PM

what is this "read" of which you speak? I am just here to post "glock knockoff" in every thread that does not have "glock" in the title and then go over to the semi auto rifle board and post about why AR15s are unreliable peices of junk that need to be replaced with cheap romanian AK47s

fourbore · August 10, 2018, 10:14 PM

No, I meant I should shut up and read. Not you.

I made 3 bad post, I should delete them but; what would remain would not make sense. Ehhhh.

tahunua001 · August 10, 2018, 11:35 PM

lol, I knew what you meant. I was just making a joke. I teach technical classes, trust me, nobody reads enough to know what's going on...

Carmady · August 11, 2018, 08:30 AM

Who makes an IWB holster for these?

Dragger34 · August 30, 2018, 09:28 PM

I could see one for a full-size 10mm Glock. Help tame some of the excess recoil while getting pretty decent ballistics from a small package.

TXAZ · August 30, 2018, 09:31 PM

Why?

TruthTellers · August 30, 2018, 11:54 PM

Thought about getting one,
decided an AR with a 10 inch barrel and brace is better.
binary triggers, drop in auto sears, etc.
Pistol is better for home defense.

RONI is cool, great company, but it wasn't for me after I thought it over.

Not copying Frankenmauser, just hitting the bullet points to save time.

kozak6 · August 31, 2018, 05:02 AM

I think they would be more interesting if they weren't so expensive. They cost as much or more than the pistol they go on.

If you don't care about the optics rail, it would be cheaper to SBR the pistol and put a stock on it (if your state allows it).

GarrettJ · August 31, 2018, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kozak6

I think they would be more interesting if they weren't so expensive. They cost as much or more than the pistol they go on.

If you don't care about the optics rail, it would be cheaper to SBR the pistol and put a stock on it (if your state allows it).

I just bought one from CAA on sale for $230.

My thought was to register a Glock as an SBR and shoot it like this while waiting on the stamp. Once approved, I would decide if I should swap out the brace for a real stock, or to sell it and buy the SBR version.

RickB · September 1, 2018, 09:26 AM

If you put a 6" barrel in a G17, would it still fit?

August 6, 2018, 09:01 PM	#1
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Micro Roni? Anyone have a Micro Roni? Supposed to convert a Glock into a little baby carbine, 100% legal not NFA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j_LLfQIE8c Thoughts?

August 7, 2018, 01:30 AM	#2
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Not a carbine. Still, technically, a pistol. Note the "brace" used in the chassis. Nothing provided by the 'chassis', other than providing an NFA-legal forward grip. No velocity gains. No accuracy gains. Novelty for people that like the bang switch. ...With potential legal implications when brace use gets "re-interpreted" again. ...My opinion. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

August 7, 2018, 10:57 AM	#4
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	There's an extensive review of the Micro RONI (macaroni?) in the issue of Firearms News I was reading over the weekend. If I still have it, I'll send it to you. PM your address if interested. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.

August 7, 2018, 11:13 AM	#5
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,789	Is that a San Francisco treat? __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

August 8, 2018, 01:15 PM	#6
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	I'm not a Glock fan, and have no experience with the RONI, but if the point is to turn a handgun into a sort-of carbine, I'd prefer that the base gun be the one with the longest barrel, rather than an already-compact gun like the G19. How about a not-as-micro RONI for the G17L, so the additional 100-150fps of the longer barrel can be exploited? I would think the practical improvement in accuracy could be considerable, regardless of the mechanical accuracy of the base gun. Along the lines of the M1 Carbine replacing the M1911A1 in some instances; maybe the difference in putting accurate fire on a target fifteen feet away isn't significant, but if you're shooting at something fifty yards away? __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.

August 7, 2018, 08:10 AM	#3
Areoflyer09 Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2017 Posts: 300	I’ve shot one that a friend had. Glocks and I just don’t get along. I can shoot them to an “acceptable” point of accuracy but I’m generally working much harder to do so than I am with other choices. Combination of shape, unnaturally feeling and lack of time spent with them. When I’ve used the Roni kits, it’s easier for me to reach acceptable levels of accuracy then when not using one. The Roni is the only reason I would buy a Glock. FrakenMauser has valid points though. The inherit accuracy of the gun isn’t changed and it’s not picking up any velocity. Instead, you get the front grip ability which can help the human aspect of the accuracy.

August 9, 2018, 07:41 PM	#7
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	you seek to improve accuracy by snapping your handgun into 3 pounds of extra, and useless plastic that costs $500 and requires you to purchase some other form of sights... I was once enamored with their model that actually gave you a buttstock and "barrel" that gave the minimum OAL to make it legal without an SBR stamp, but they discontinued it in favor of their SBR variants. I think I would rather just get a mechtech upper, assuming this was for a glock or 1911. at least then you get a full rifle, instead of a heavier handgun. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

August 9, 2018, 08:27 PM	#8
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	Got one at the shop, if anyone's interested. I can't even figure out how to open the thing. __________________ 2024 PA Cartridge Collector Show; Aug. 16-17, 2024!!! Buy...Sell...Trade All Types of Ammunition & Ordnance PM or email me for 2024 show details.

August 10, 2018, 11:18 AM	#10
fourbore Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2015 Location: new england Posts: 1,159	Glock should make a real carbine. I bet it would be better on all measures than the Ruger PC. Measures being: light, reliable and accurate. Even the excellent KelTec Sub 2000, might get a run for money. Edit: Never mind, I just did a google. They make or introduced an AR style glock rifle. Figures. KelTec has no need to worry. Last edited by fourbore; August 10, 2018 at 02:41 PM.

August 10, 2018, 12:29 PM	#11
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	uh? glock doesn't make rifles. also, not to be that guy, but it's Keltec, not Kaltec.. the California Institute of Technology doesn't do to much work with firearms. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

August 10, 2018, 02:40 PM	#12
fourbore Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2015 Location: new england Posts: 1,159	Ohhh, I will fix the spelling. I found a blurb on the web, let me see.... here it is- https://www.guns.com/2013/04/01/excl...-for-nra-expo/ I did not dig into this. Old news, fake news, cancelled news, future news? Not to nit pick back, Cal Tech is not Kal Tec

August 10, 2018, 04:08 PM	#13
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	it was apparently an april fools joke from 2013 __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

August 10, 2018, 05:11 PM	#14
fourbore Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2015 Location: new england Posts: 1,159	Some days it better to just shut up and read!

August 10, 2018, 05:23 PM	#15
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	what is this "read" of which you speak? I am just here to post "glock knockoff" in every thread that does not have "glock" in the title and then go over to the semi auto rifle board and post about why AR15s are unreliable peices of junk that need to be replaced with cheap romanian AK47s __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

August 10, 2018, 10:14 PM	#16
fourbore Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2015 Location: new england Posts: 1,159	No, I meant I should shut up and read. Not you. I made 3 bad post, I should delete them but; what would remain would not make sense. Ehhhh.

August 10, 2018, 11:35 PM	#17
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	lol, I knew what you meant. I was just making a joke. I teach technical classes, trust me, nobody reads enough to know what's going on... __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

August 11, 2018, 08:30 AM	#18
Carmady Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: on the lam Posts: 1,735	Who makes an IWB holster for these?

August 30, 2018, 09:28 PM	#19
Dragger34 Member Join Date: July 25, 2013 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 89	I could see one for a full-size 10mm Glock. Help tame some of the excess recoil while getting pretty decent ballistics from a small package. __________________ Always best to have and not need than to need and not have.

August 30, 2018, 09:31 PM	#20
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	Why? __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

August 30, 2018, 11:54 PM	#21
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,888	Thought about getting one, decided an AR with a 10 inch barrel and brace is better. binary triggers, drop in auto sears, etc. Pistol is better for home defense. RONI is cool, great company, but it wasn't for me after I thought it over. Not copying Frankenmauser, just hitting the bullet points to save time. __________________ "We always think there's gonna be more time... then it runs out."

August 31, 2018, 05:02 AM	#22
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	I think they would be more interesting if they weren't so expensive. They cost as much or more than the pistol they go on. If you don't care about the optics rail, it would be cheaper to SBR the pistol and put a stock on it (if your state allows it).

September 1, 2018, 09:26 AM	#24
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	If you put a 6" barrel in a G17, would it still fit? __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.