Single handgun for HD, CC and Hunting... - Page 4

agtman · October 5, 2017, 05:53 PM

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The poster above that said Glock 29 is spot on. A concealable 10 mm. It meets all your requirements.
However, I have to agree that this whole idea is a compromise. It's hard enough to handgun hunt with a full size pistol, nevermind a subcompact. And a hunting-power cartridge in a CCW would have it's own set of problems: over-penetration, uncontrollability, etc.
I think you'd be better served with a subcompact pistol in .380 or 9mm, or revolver in .38 special for CCW, and a separate .44 mag revolver for hunting.
The 29 can do both, but is the best at neither. If money is the issue (it often is with me), choose the need you most immediately need to meet, and find the gun that meets that need best for you. The secondary need can come later.
But if you must keep it to one gun: Glock 29.

Actually, the "compromise" among the three 10mm Glocks would be the G29 but with a spare 6.2" "hunting" barrel - to comply with state handgun hunting regs where they allow the 10mm cartridge, but require a minimum barrel length of 6".

I still think that among the 10mm Glocks for the O.P.'s stated uses the G20 (again, wiith a separate 6.2" tube) is the best compromise, but no doubt the G29 is somewhat easier to conceal for EDC.

johnwilliamson062 · October 6, 2017, 08:19 PM

Did DW make a 357 max with change barrels?

ShootistPRS · October 6, 2017, 08:36 PM

If you have an auto-loader that you trust the 10mm with a 6" barrel would be a good choice. Ballistically it is a match for the 357 in a slightly larger caliber. I don't know that it would be the best home defense gun but it would definitely do the job.
I think if I could trust a semi-auto it would be my choice for carry and hunting.

shurshot · October 8, 2017, 10:42 AM

How many golfers have ONE golf club? How many women have ONE pair of shoes? How many Arborists or Loggers have just ONE chainsaw??? That being said, Skeeter wrote an article when I was a kid, about a .357 magnum being perfect for a one gun man. I think he preferred a 5", but for overall utility I would get a 4", perhaps even a 3" or 2.5" 686 Plus.

Ghost1958 · October 9, 2017, 08:18 PM

Don't have one now but a 4 inch security six or similar. 357 mag with 125gr sjhp covers all those baMag.
If I was going for a do it all handgun and load that's the one.

johnwilliamson062 · October 10, 2017, 08:00 PM

My state ha a minimum barrel length requirement for hunting longer than most are recommending. Make sure yours does not before you buy that 4"

Ibmikey · October 12, 2017, 04:26 PM

A Smith Model 19 or 66 with a 4” barrel would cover your hunting, target and concealed carry needs. While a new officer and having limited funds and a Model 19 for duty it quickly became my universal firearm working all night, attending a Police pistol match during the day and slung in a pancake holster under my shirt for concealed carry.
Loaded with magnums it became a formidable weapon against man or beast and wadcutters for paper.

rodfac · October 13, 2017, 09:14 PM

Pretty tough compromise getting one handgun that'll do carry, home defense & hunting chores adequately...but if I were forced to choose a revolver it'd be a Smith Model 19 with a 4" bbl. It has enough power for all those chores out to say 50 yds or so, but can still be concealed with a little wardrobe manipulation.

If I were in a 'automatic' frame of mind it'd be a toss up betweena Sig P229 in .40 S&W with a spare .22 barrel, or a Commander sized .45 1911, again with a spare .22 bbl.

All of the above have enough barrel (read inter-sight distance) to make hits out to 50+ yards from a rest in hunting situations, and if equipped with tritium night sights would do equally well at across the bedroom distances in home defense. Neither caliber is my first choice for hunting, but if ranges and shots are limited to less than 50 yds on our KY white tails, they should do the trick.

YMMV, Rod

Danoobie · October 13, 2017, 09:38 PM

It seems you would have to prioritize your carry needs, somehow.
A good hunter is going to be inherently difficult to conceal.
Something easily concealable isn't going to hunt well.
On a personal note, while I like a revolver with ratshot, for snakes,
I'm not a pistol hunting enthusiast.

**4V50 Gary** · October 13, 2017, 09:40 PM

Sig P220. I carried one for years as a duty sidearm.

agtman · October 14, 2017, 05:46 PM

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Sig P220. I carried one for years as a duty sidearm.

And for how many years did you hunt with it?

The OP specified multiple roles to consider in his "single handgun" query.

CDW4ME · October 16, 2017, 12:35 PM

Delta Elite 10mm:
Easy to carry concealed
Fine for home defense
Sufficient for deer inside bow range (which I plan on trying when gun season opens)

Lohman446 · October 16, 2017, 01:13 PM

Glock 29 - can take Glock 20 magazines and its unlikely the barrel length is that vital for anything - if it is can take longer barrels.

In revolver land I go with an SP101 (3" barrel) though I'm sure there are other choices

hdwhit · October 16, 2017, 04:36 PM

The opposing counsel on a case I worked recently really liked the Taurus Judge. She was a foot taller than me, broad shoulders, very athletic, take-no-prisoners negotiator. That Judge probably looked like a Saturday Night Special in her hands.

glockman55 · October 16, 2017, 05:56 PM

My Ruger Redhawk 5" .44mag would work for all three I guess,,,

Attachment 105980

agtman · October 16, 2017, 06:14 PM

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My Ruger Redhawk 5" .44mag would work for all three I guess.

It would, unless he prefers an autoloader.

Edge · October 19, 2017, 02:27 PM

Obviously, you need to check your state's hunting regulations for anything you may wish to hunt first.

You also need to consider your size, build, and carry laws.

Generally, i'd consider the S&W 69 and the Glock 29 as two of the guns best able to handle all roles.

Lohman446 · October 19, 2017, 02:48 PM

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Delta Elite 10mm:
Easy to carry concealed

As I own one of these I'm curious as to how this is done easily

CDW4ME · October 20, 2017, 06:48 AM

Here is a Ed Brown Special Forces, same size as Delta Elite, uses same holster.
I carry strong side IWB 3:00 with a forward cant; holster (Fist) was for a Glock 21SF, I heated with with a hairdryer & reshaped, added retention screws.
The result is a open muzzle holster that allows the pistol to ride deep, gets muzzle past/off my hip, conceals under untucked polo.
I've worn (wear) it all day long, including 9 mile casual bicycle rides.

john in jax · October 31, 2017, 05:53 PM

For my 2 cents I am going to split it up:

Want a revolver go with a 4" .44 mag if you are talking large dangerous game, .357 mag if not. You can always load down to "Specials" (.44spl and .38spl respectivly) for inside the home.

If you prefer a semi-auto go with the Glock 20. It can handle the hottest 10mm loads out in the woods and with the addition of a $99 drop-in aftermarket bbl you can convert it to the cheaper and softer shooting .40S&W for target and home.

Now if that Glock 20 and the versatility of conversion got you interested look at the .460 Rowland Conversion, to really make it a hand cannon.

481 · October 31, 2017, 08:51 PM

Glock 20, Gen 3.

SaxonPig · November 1, 2017, 12:38 PM

I want a car that carries 8 passengers in comfort, can go off road, gets 30 MPG, and I can drag race on the weekend.

agtman · November 1, 2017, 03:36 PM

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I want a car that carries 8 passengers in comfort, can go off road, gets 30 MPG, and I can drag race on the weekend.

99.9% of the guys I know want that too. Maybe NASA is working hard on it (?).

RIDE-RED 350r · November 1, 2017, 06:55 PM

4" m29/629...honorable mention for the 5" 629 Classic. Would be a little better suited to hunting but would be a little more limited in concealment.

I carry my 4" m29 less than I would like. Not because it's too heavy, but because it's in excellent condition and I'd like to keep it that way. I have a descent forward canted, high ride belt holster for it and it carries pretty descent in that rig. It's no J-frame, but not hard to cover with an untucked shirt. Summertime concealed carry is argueably a stretch.

Who the heck limits themselves to one handgun anyway???

agtman · November 1, 2017, 07:10 PM

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* * * Who the heck limits themselves to one handgun anyway???

Po' folk, mostly. We can't all be rich.

October 13, 2017, 09:14 PM	#83
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,623	Pretty tough compromise getting one handgun that'll do carry, home defense & hunting chores adequately...but if I were forced to choose a revolver it'd be a Smith Model 19 with a 4" bbl. It has enough power for all those chores out to say 50 yds or so, but can still be concealed with a little wardrobe manipulation. If I were in a 'automatic' frame of mind it'd be a toss up betweena Sig P229 in .40 S&W with a spare .22 barrel, or a Commander sized .45 1911, again with a spare .22 bbl. All of the above have enough barrel (read inter-sight distance) to make hits out to 50+ yards from a rest in hunting situations, and if equipped with tritium night sights would do equally well at across the bedroom distances in home defense. Neither caliber is my first choice for hunting, but if ranges and shots are limited to less than 50 yds on our KY white tails, they should do the trick. YMMV, Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.

October 13, 2017, 09:40 PM	#85
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,831	Sig P220. I carried one for years as a duty sidearm. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

October 16, 2017, 12:35 PM	#87
CDW4ME Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Posts: 1,321	Delta Elite 10mm: Easy to carry concealed Fine for home defense Sufficient for deer inside bow range (which I plan on trying when gun season opens) __________________ Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap. "Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.

October 16, 2017, 01:13 PM	#88
Lohman446 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2016 Posts: 2,192	Glock 29 - can take Glock 20 magazines and its unlikely the barrel length is that vital for anything - if it is can take longer barrels. In revolver land I go with an SP101 (3" barrel) though I'm sure there are other choices Last edited by Lohman446; October 16, 2017 at 02:51 PM.

October 16, 2017, 05:56 PM	#90
glockman55 Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 179	My Ruger Redhawk 5" .44mag would work for all three I guess,,, Attachment 105980 Last edited by glockman55; October 16, 2018 at 06:08 PM.

October 6, 2017, 08:19 PM	#77
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	Did DW make a 357 max with change barrels?

October 6, 2017, 08:36 PM	#78
ShootistPRS Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2017 Posts: 1,583	If you have an auto-loader that you trust the 10mm with a 6" barrel would be a good choice. Ballistically it is a match for the 357 in a slightly larger caliber. I don't know that it would be the best home defense gun but it would definitely do the job. I think if I could trust a semi-auto it would be my choice for carry and hunting.

October 8, 2017, 10:42 AM	#79
shurshot Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2006 Posts: 1,819	How many golfers have ONE golf club? How many women have ONE pair of shoes? How many Arborists or Loggers have just ONE chainsaw??? That being said, Skeeter wrote an article when I was a kid, about a .357 magnum being perfect for a one gun man. I think he preferred a 5", but for overall utility I would get a 4", perhaps even a 3" or 2.5" 686 Plus.

October 9, 2017, 08:18 PM	#80
Ghost1958 Junior member Join Date: December 15, 2012 Posts: 164	Don't have one now but a 4 inch security six or similar. 357 mag with 125gr sjhp covers all those baMag. If I was going for a do it all handgun and load that's the one.

October 10, 2017, 08:00 PM	#81
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	My state ha a minimum barrel length requirement for hunting longer than most are recommending. Make sure yours does not before you buy that 4"

October 12, 2017, 04:26 PM	#82
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	A Smith Model 19 or 66 with a 4” barrel would cover your hunting, target and concealed carry needs. While a new officer and having limited funds and a Model 19 for duty it quickly became my universal firearm working all night, attending a Police pistol match during the day and slung in a pancake holster under my shirt for concealed carry. Loaded with magnums it became a formidable weapon against man or beast and wadcutters for paper.

October 13, 2017, 09:38 PM	#84
Danoobie Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2017 Posts: 351	It seems you would have to prioritize your carry needs, somehow. A good hunter is going to be inherently difficult to conceal. Something easily concealable isn't going to hunt well. On a personal note, while I like a revolver with ratshot, for snakes, I'm not a pistol hunting enthusiast.

October 16, 2017, 04:36 PM	#89
hdwhit Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2017 Posts: 1,011	The opposing counsel on a case I worked recently really liked the Taurus Judge. She was a foot taller than me, broad shoulders, very athletic, take-no-prisoners negotiator. That Judge probably looked like a Saturday Night Special in her hands.

October 19, 2017, 02:27 PM	#92
Edge Member Join Date: December 17, 2001 Location: IL Posts: 40	Obviously, you need to check your state's hunting regulations for anything you may wish to hunt first. You also need to consider your size, build, and carry laws. Generally, i'd consider the S&W 69 and the Glock 29 as two of the guns best able to handle all roles.

October 20, 2017, 06:48 AM	#94
CDW4ME Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Posts: 1,321	How its done easily ... Here is a Ed Brown Special Forces, same size as Delta Elite, uses same holster. I carry strong side IWB 3:00 with a forward cant; holster (Fist) was for a Glock 21SF, I heated with with a hairdryer & reshaped, added retention screws. The result is a open muzzle holster that allows the pistol to ride deep, gets muzzle past/off my hip, conceals under untucked polo. I've worn (wear) it all day long, including 9 mile casual bicycle rides. __________________ Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap. "Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.

October 31, 2017, 05:53 PM	#95
john in jax Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2005 Posts: 1,177	For my 2 cents I am going to split it up: Want a revolver go with a 4" .44 mag if you are talking large dangerous game, .357 mag if not. You can always load down to "Specials" (.44spl and .38spl respectivly) for inside the home. If you prefer a semi-auto go with the Glock 20. It can handle the hottest 10mm loads out in the woods and with the addition of a $99 drop-in aftermarket bbl you can convert it to the cheaper and softer shooting .40S&W for target and home. Now if that Glock 20 and the versatility of conversion got you interested look at the .460 Rowland Conversion, to really make it a hand cannon. __________________ America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. Claire Wolfe

October 31, 2017, 08:51 PM	#96
481 Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2011 Posts: 540	Glock 20, Gen 3. __________________ QUANTITATIVE AMMUNITION SELECTION

November 1, 2017, 12:38 PM	#97
SaxonPig Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2006 Posts: 1,900	I want a car that carries 8 passengers in comfort, can go off road, gets 30 MPG, and I can drag race on the weekend.

November 1, 2017, 06:55 PM	#99
RIDE-RED 350r Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2014 Posts: 425	4" m29/629...honorable mention for the 5" 629 Classic. Would be a little better suited to hunting but would be a little more limited in concealment. I carry my 4" m29 less than I would like. Not because it's too heavy, but because it's in excellent condition and I'd like to keep it that way. I have a descent forward canted, high ride belt holster for it and it carries pretty descent in that rig. It's no J-frame, but not hard to cover with an untucked shirt. Summertime concealed carry is argueably a stretch. Who the heck limits themselves to one handgun anyway???