Woody's Shoot N Snore

[K80Geoff]

The other thread was getting a bit long so I thought I would start a new one here. This time I got the host's name right

Every shoot needs a theme so I came up with one

OK who is coming and whaddya bringing to shoot.

Don't forget the movies afterward.


The moths got to my old Army fartsack so I will have to buy a new one just for this. Less money for ammo dangit!

[PATH]

Geez! Everyone else gets to go out and play and I have to work.
Have fun gang. Maybe I can make it the next time.

K80Geoff, I just got a new sleeping bag from my wife last Christmas. Frankly I think she is trying to tell me something.

[RAY WOODROW 3RD]

Be there by 9:30am. Shooting starts at 10:00am.

1st event, the rope shoot. 2nd event, the pin shoot, 3rd event, police qualification shoot. $5.00 for each event
plus $5.00 for food. Each event is a 50/50 split to the winner & gun club. Bring a $20.00 and your set for the day.
Bring your own ammo. No hollow points. You will need at least 100 rounds but I would bring more. 60 rounds for
the police qual and the rest for the rope & pin shoot.

Any other questions feel free to ask.

[David Park]

I'm bringing all my handguns (SIG 220, SIG 239, Ruger SP101 .22LR, etc. ) and probably my 18" shotgun "just in case," as well as plenty of ammo. I'm also bringing shoot-em-up DVDs, a sleeping bag, and a digital camera. I'll be wearing TFL clothing and lots of knives. (What are the knife laws in NJ? Can I bring a khukuri?)

[RAY WOODROW 3RD]

Beware of the Knife laws. They are just as bad as the gun laws here. Just bring a folding knife that is only sharpened on one side or a swiss army type knife if you need one. No double edged or un-folding knives, boot knives, blackjacks, nunchukas, stars, swords, sling shots, etc. This is a pistol shoot, not a knife get together. The shotgun is O.K. I don't know what a khukuri is David but a safe bet for an answer is NO! What type of shotgun are you bringing? I'll tell you if it is Jersey legal. I will be bringing my full collection of handguns for Mrs. pdmoderator to try out at her convenience. For the shoot, I'm leaning torwards my S&W 3913 for the police qual and my Trooper Mark V for the pin and rope shoot.

[David Park]

Ray, a khukuri is a big knife. I guess they'll have to stay home. Is there a length limit law, i.e., can I bring my 5.5" folder? I'm not planning to "conceal," just "possess."

Shotgun is a Mossberg 500 pump. If it's not legal, I'll just stay home.

[RAY WOODROW 3RD]

The pump is legal and as long as it folds, the knife that is, you can have it.

[K80Geoff]

DP... Your Mossy is legal, I can vouch for that

The Khukhri's aren't

Too Bad

Should I bring some clays?

[RAY WOODROW 3RD]

Why not! I guess after everybody vacates we can do some clays until dark. Sounds like a plan GEOFF.

[K80Geoff]

Are you gonna use that trick rope for the "Rope a Dope" shoot


Hint, Hint to new shooters, use a 9mm for the rope shoot

Old slow 45 won't break the rope.

[9mmMike]

You really need to post the date for the shoot in here.

[Rovert]

OK, guys, I'm in, and hope to bring a friend that shoots pin league with me. I saw mention of name badges. If everyone wants to send me their Screen ID, Real Name, and favorite gun (or the one you plan to use for the match), I'll be happy to print them up on my new color printer.

You can Email me directly, or reach me through Ray. Looking forward to seeing you all again!

Regards to all,
RK

[David Park]

Geoff, sounds like fun. I'm mainly bringing the SG because I've never(!) used the 18.5" barrel and want to test it out-of-doors. The 28" barrel is dead -- even Mossberg won't fix it -- so I'm searching for a used one. I might just buy another used 500, since a used SG costs less than a new barrel.

9mmMike, the meet is...
August 24, 2002

[RAY WOODROW 3RD]

I edited my post above, the third post, so that others know the date. Very funny David. Could you get it any bigger? Looking forward to making your aquaintance. Just remember, DON'T FORGET THE MOVIES!

[Jamie Young]

I have to see how things go but I may just show up with the pop corn if it gets too late. Hey, I actually sell that stuff in my junk food snack machines. Do you have a microwave?

[David Park]

I have...
A Better Tomorrow
A Better Tomorrow II
Full Contact
Hard Boiled (Criterion)
The Killer
...and that's just Chow Yun Fat. I'll bring some other stuff, like the excellent Gunsmith Cats anime.

[Jamie Young]

Cats

[FlyinGN]

this is gonna be funnnnnnnnn.

[Jamie Young]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[K80Geoff]

"Gunsmith Cats?"

OK must be a slacker generation thing?

[David Park]

Soda, don't worry, no actual cats are in the show (that I remember). For more on Gunsmith Cats:
http://members.aol.com/rllyvncnt/gunsmith.html

Geoff, yep, I'm a slacker. I'll bring something for your generation too, like The Maltese Falcon.

[RAY WOODROW 3RD]

FYI.


State of New Jersey
Department of Law and Public Safety
DIVISION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE
25 Market Street
Trenton, New Jersey

TO: ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY HEADS

FROM: Robert T Winter
Director of the Division of Criminal Justice

DATE: January 4, 1991

SUBJECT: Interstate Transport of Firearms

The following guidelines are provided in order to assist law enforcement officers in applying New Jersey's firearms laws
to persons who are transporting firearms through the State of New Jersey

I. New Jersey laws governing firearms permits, purchaser identification cards, registration an licenses do not apply to a
person who is transporting a firearm through this State it that person is transporting the firearm in a manner permitted by
federal law 18 U.S.C.A. 926A.

II. This federal law permitting interstate transportation of a firearm applies only if all of the following requirements are
met:

A. The person's possession of the firearm was lawful in the state in which the journey began;
B. The person's possession of the firearm will be lawful in the state in which the journey will end;
C. The person is transporting the firearm for a lawful purpose;
D. The firearm is unloaded;
E. The firearm is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle;
F. The ammunition is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle;
G. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm must be
in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console;

H. The person is not

1. a convicted felon
2. a fugitive from justice
3. an addict or unlawful user of drugs, or
4. an illegal alien

I. The person has not

1. been adjudicated to be a mental defective
2. been committed to a mental institution
3. been dishonorably discharged from the armed forces, or
4. renounced his United States citizenship

III. A person who is transporting a firearm through the State of New Jersey in the manner permitted by 18 U.S.C.A.
926A, see Section II above, need not give notice.



IV. Procedure for Investigation of Conduct Involving the Possession or Transportation of Firearms.

1. An officer who reasonably suspects that a person transporting a firearm in violation of New Jersey law
should make reasonable inquiries in order to confirm or dispel that suspicion

2. In a case where circumstances reasonably indicate that the person's possession and transportation of the
firearm may be permitted by U.S.C.A. 926A, the officer should make reasonable inquiries in order to determine
whether the person's possession is permitted by the federal law.

3. If reasonable inquires lead the officer to conclude that the person's possession is lawful under either New
Jersey law or U.S.C.A. 926A, as described above in Section II., the officer should promptly allow the person to
proceed.

4. Whenever an officer has probable cause to believe that a person's possession of a firearm is in violation of
New Jersey law and not permitted by U.S.C.A. 926A,as described above in Section II, then the officer should
make an arrest.

And finally something from the "Interstate Transportaion of Firearms".

New Jersey---New Jersey does not permit firearms to be transported through the state unless the owner possesses a Firearms Identification Card. Exceptions to this prohibition are: a person traveling to and from a target range or to and from hunting, provided the individual has obtained a valid state hunting license, and
``between one place of business or residence and another when moving.'' In any event, the general rule should be followed.

New Jersey lists over 4 dozen specified firearms as being ``assault firearms.'' An assault firearm is any semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity
exceeding 15 rounds, and any semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding 6 rounds, an accentuated pistol grip, or a folding stock. Such
firearms require registration and a New Jersey license to possess. Any ammunition magazine capable of holding more than 15 rounds may only be possessed for a
registered and licensed ``assault firearm''.

[Jamie Young]

like The Maltese Falcon.

On second thought......maybe we should get a copy of "Woodstock" to bring back all his forgotten memories of the 60's. Maybe Jimi Hendrix will do it.

[K80Geoff]

Haven't forgot a thing

Woodstock wasn't my thing.

Maybe some John Wayne

[David Park]

Rio Bravo is one of my favorite movies, but it's the only John Wayne I have.

Any ammunition magazine capable of holding more than 15 rounds may only be possessed for a
registered and licensed ``assault firearm''.

Does this mean that mags that hold 15 rounds are OK, but 20-rounders are illegal? I thought the cutoff was 10, same as the feds.