Timely Topic - Price of Ammo going up.

USSR · February 16, 2018, 11:44 AM

Of course, the main stream media not knowing the difference, calls ammo "bullets". Have been watching the price of commodities (brass and lead) go up, up, and up over the past 6 month, so this was bound to happen.

Don

https://www.newsmax.com/finance/econ.../16/id/843757/

Carl the Floor Walker · February 16, 2018, 11:49 AM

I do not know where this info is coming from, but I sure have been paying less. Just ordered about 5,000 rounds in the past month at bargin prices with free shipping.

USSR · February 16, 2018, 12:16 PM

I suspect the retailers are selling stuff they've had on their hands for awhile. I also have found good deals out there. However, once the retailers go thru their old stock and need to be replenished by the distributors, I imagine things will be different.

Don

Nick_C_S · February 16, 2018, 04:59 PM

After the last shortage, I have seriously stocked up.

A few things have changed in my life and so I don't frequent the range quite as much as I have in previous recent years. (Although I went out today

)

Between the two (huge supply; decreased demand), I may well have a lifetime supply of just about everything.

hounddawg · February 16, 2018, 05:19 PM

Don't think so. I was looking to replace my LC .223 with Lapua and found loaded Lapua's for the same price as the empty cases

BigJimP · February 16, 2018, 09:12 PM

No, I think the long term trends ...are that it will stay the same or go down a little ...its not just raw material ....its competition, improvements in machinery, marketing, labor, shippjng, etc...that have,an impact.

The last shortage was made much worse by hoarding....and we sure do not want to go down that path again. ( I continue to chuckle every time I hear about a "profiteer - that accumulated thousands of rounds...expecting to make a huge profit down the road"....and now he can't even break even...)....

USSR · February 17, 2018, 07:43 PM

Actually, the "hoarding" is going on right now. Anybody that was stockpiling during the last drought is a fool. You stockup when the prices are low, not high.

Don

JeepHammer · February 17, 2018, 07:59 PM

I just ordered .224 bullets (10,000 not enough for any deep discounts) and got a screaming g good price on them...

gw44 · February 17, 2018, 08:25 PM

I load my own, powder and bullets have gone up a little, not bad !

USSR · February 17, 2018, 08:39 PM

Yeah, I'm stocking up as well. Recently got 8k of .22 rimfire and 10k of primers.

Don

hounddawg · February 17, 2018, 09:05 PM

these threads are as predictable as a sunrise, every time a shooting makes news certain individuals start seeing shortages that no one else does and urge people to hoard. Kind of makes one wonder about motives

USSR · February 17, 2018, 09:11 PM

hounddawg,

Nobody's talking about a shortage or a shooting. Supplies are plentiful. Simply talking about what the future holds what with companies having trouble making ends meet (Remington filed for bankrupcy) and the current high commodity prices.

Don

Pathfinder45 · February 17, 2018, 09:41 PM

Since availability is good right now and prices are fair, now is the time to stock up if you haven't already done so. There will be future shortages. A lot of people got angry and blamed the, "speculators", and, "hoarders", when they couldn't get ammo or components, when, in fact, it was their own fault for not preparing ahead of time. While I have never bought ammo to re-sell, that is the nature of free-enterprise. We all were without excuse at the last shortage as there was another one just a short while before. Politics has a huge effect on the supply and demand for these products. We absolutely cannot count on being able to go down a pickup a box or two of ammo for an anticipated event this weekend. And yet, we already take it for granted. I know I can go down right now and buy more. So maybe I don't. And then one day, I will wish I had. Maybe I'll get angry and demonize others for my lack....

hounddawg · February 17, 2018, 10:18 PM

Quote:

hounddawg,

Nobody's talking about a shortage or a shooting. Supplies are plentiful. Simply talking about what the future holds what with companies having trouble making ends meet (Remington filed for bankrupcy) and the current high commodity prices.

Then I apologize. Perhaps it is just inflation, I don't see much of a price increase really. Now if you were talking hamburger and beer yes there has been a price increase

Salmoneye · February 18, 2018, 03:57 PM

Lead has gone from ~$1.00/lb to ~$1.20/lb over the last five years...

Copper is still about .50¢/lb less than where it was 5 years ago...

zipspyder · February 18, 2018, 04:00 PM

Prices seem about the same to me...

USSR · February 18, 2018, 04:53 PM

The gist of this is not what prices are now (they are low and availability is high), but rather what they may be when the retailers have exhausted their inventory and need to reorder from their distributors. I highly encourage everyone to buy now.

Don

February 16, 2018, 11:44 AM	#1
USSR Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2017 Location: Finger Lakes Region of NY Posts: 1,442	Timely Topic - Price of Ammo going up. Of course, the main stream media not knowing the difference, calls ammo "bullets". Have been watching the price of commodities (brass and lead) go up, up, and up over the past 6 month, so this was bound to happen. Don https://www.newsmax.com/finance/econ.../16/id/843757/ __________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor

February 16, 2018, 12:16 PM	#3
USSR Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2017 Location: Finger Lakes Region of NY Posts: 1,442	I suspect the retailers are selling stuff they've had on their hands for awhile. I also have found good deals out there. However, once the retailers go thru their old stock and need to be replenished by the distributors, I imagine things will be different. Don __________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor

February 16, 2018, 04:59 PM	#4
Nick_C_S Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,522	After the last shortage, I have seriously stocked up. A few things have changed in my life and so I don't frequent the range quite as much as I have in previous recent years. (Although I went out today ) Between the two (huge supply; decreased demand), I may well have a lifetime supply of just about everything. __________________ Gun control laws benefit only criminals and politicians - but then, I repeat myself. Life Member, National Rifle Association

February 16, 2018, 05:19 PM	#5
hounddawg Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Posts: 4,232	Don't think so. I was looking to replace my LC .223 with Lapua and found loaded Lapua's for the same price as the empty cases __________________ “How do I get to the next level?” Well, you get to the next level by being the first one on the range and the last one to leave.” – Jerry Miculek

February 17, 2018, 07:43 PM	#7
USSR Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2017 Location: Finger Lakes Region of NY Posts: 1,442	Actually, the "hoarding" is going on right now. Anybody that was stockpiling during the last drought is a fool. You stockup when the prices are low, not high. Don __________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor

February 16, 2018, 11:49 AM	#2
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	I do not know where this info is coming from, but I sure have been paying less. Just ordered about 5,000 rounds in the past month at bargin prices with free shipping.

February 16, 2018, 09:12 PM	#6
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	No, I think the long term trends ...are that it will stay the same or go down a little ...its not just raw material ....its competition, improvements in machinery, marketing, labor, shippjng, etc...that have,an impact. The last shortage was made much worse by hoarding....and we sure do not want to go down that path again. ( I continue to chuckle every time I hear about a "profiteer - that accumulated thousands of rounds...expecting to make a huge profit down the road"....and now he can't even break even...)....

February 17, 2018, 07:59 PM	#8
JeepHammer Junior member Join Date: February 27, 2015 Posts: 1,768	I just ordered .224 bullets (10,000 not enough for any deep discounts) and got a screaming g good price on them...

February 17, 2018, 08:25 PM	#9
gw44 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 311	I load my own, powder and bullets have gone up a little, not bad !

February 17, 2018, 08:39 PM	#10
USSR Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2017 Location: Finger Lakes Region of NY Posts: 1,442	Yeah, I'm stocking up as well. Recently got 8k of .22 rimfire and 10k of primers. Don __________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor

February 17, 2018, 09:05 PM	#11
hounddawg Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Posts: 4,232	these threads are as predictable as a sunrise, every time a shooting makes news certain individuals start seeing shortages that no one else does and urge people to hoard. Kind of makes one wonder about motives __________________ “How do I get to the next level?” Well, you get to the next level by being the first one on the range and the last one to leave.” – Jerry Miculek

February 17, 2018, 09:11 PM	#12
USSR Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2017 Location: Finger Lakes Region of NY Posts: 1,442	hounddawg, Nobody's talking about a shortage or a shooting. Supplies are plentiful. Simply talking about what the future holds what with companies having trouble making ends meet (Remington filed for bankrupcy) and the current high commodity prices. Don __________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor

February 17, 2018, 09:41 PM	#13
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 3,224	Since availability is good right now and prices are fair, now is the time to stock up if you haven't already done so. There will be future shortages. A lot of people got angry and blamed the, "speculators", and, "hoarders", when they couldn't get ammo or components, when, in fact, it was their own fault for not preparing ahead of time. While I have never bought ammo to re-sell, that is the nature of free-enterprise. We all were without excuse at the last shortage as there was another one just a short while before. Politics has a huge effect on the supply and demand for these products. We absolutely cannot count on being able to go down a pickup a box or two of ammo for an anticipated event this weekend. And yet, we already take it for granted. I know I can go down right now and buy more. So maybe I don't. And then one day, I will wish I had. Maybe I'll get angry and demonize others for my lack....

February 18, 2018, 03:57 PM	#15
Salmoneye Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 2,076	Lead has gone from ~$1.00/lb to ~$1.20/lb over the last five years... Copper is still about .50¢/lb less than where it was 5 years ago...

February 18, 2018, 04:00 PM	#16
zipspyder Junior member Join Date: June 13, 2017 Posts: 429	Prices seem about the same to me...

February 18, 2018, 04:53 PM	#17
USSR Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2017 Location: Finger Lakes Region of NY Posts: 1,442	The gist of this is not what prices are now (they are low and availability is high), but rather what they may be when the retailers have exhausted their inventory and need to reorder from their distributors. I highly encourage everyone to buy now. Don __________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor

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