May 13, 2015, 12:42 AM | #101 |
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I'd just like to point out that the guys buying all the ammo/whatever and reselling it are not hoarders.
Hoarders acquire an excessive (your opinion, not theirs) quantity for themselves. It's more than they do use, it may be more than they could ever use, but its ALWAYS for THEMSELVES. They don't sell it for mere money, and they only share it with people they consider worthy. The guys "flipping" ammo are profiteers, or if you prefer, greedy capitalists. They aren't hoarders.
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I'd like to see BATFE require a license to sell ammunition, just as they do for manufacturing.
Problem with "re-sellers", solved.
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This needs solved on the supply side and that would get rid of the flippers . We do not need the Government doing anything . Everything they get involved in they screw up worse .
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Psalm7,
Excellent point. We don't need the government meddling in ammunition. I began hording 22s long before the crunch and only because the price was outstanding, fifteen or so years ago at Wal Mart. |
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is it getting better? I've been able to replace what I shoot during the shortage. It seems to me I've been seeing more lately. What are you seeing?
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That's where the slippery slope leads. Personally, I'd like to see BATFE disappear.
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Regarding your analogy, however, I think the difference is that for the average investor the supply of gold, like the supply of equities, is essentially infinite. So, my deciding to buy up a lot of gold and sit on it doesn't prevent you from doing the same, or, if you have a hobby that requires a steady supply of gold, doesn't prevent you from enjoying your hobby. Not the case with powder (or .22 ammo, etc.), which, as we know, is available in limited supply and is intended to be used to support a hobby and, when used as an investment vehicle, prevents others from enjoying that hobby. That's only a criticism of the analogy, not the larger point, which is that free people in a free society ought to be able to spend their money on whatever they want, as much as they want, and then do whatever they want with what they purchase. On that we agree 100%.
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I never in my life thought I would hear a feelow shooter say "we need the government to regulate ammuntion sales", just so they can get some crappy .22 ammo. No offense, but it scares me that people who are allowed to vote jump on that wagon without thinking it through. If our politicians worded gun control differently and said hey "we need to pass this to stop people from buying up all the .22", I wonder how many gun owners would vote for increased federal control.
.22 will be back. Is it really that bad that you think we need licenses and paper trails on ammunition
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Fly Fish, tell those people in Massachusetts, elections have consequences. Of course, they don't care because that's what they want.
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May 13, 2015, 11:51 AM | #110 |
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rtpzwms,
I never see 22s at Wal Mart but I do, occasionally, see them at Cabela's. The ammo horders or resellers, are there in the mornings waiting for the door to open at Cabela's. The problem for them is, Cabela's allows only one box of 22s per purchase. |
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I was at Grice's in Clearfield, PA earlier this week and they had bricks of .22 on the shelf, and I don't recall seeing any signs limiting purchases. I did not buy any, nor did I see anyone else buying! Maybe an indication that things really are getting back to normal?
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Several types of CCI at the local Gander today, more and more showing up. Of course since they revamped their entire gun area, finding the right shelf is confusing, even for the workers...............
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I'll buy a Lyman double cavity bullet mold in .22 caliber and load 1.5-2 grains of Trail Boss, Bullseye, Red Dot, or even 12 grains of home made black powder in my .22 Hornet before I buy .22 ammo from the scalpers.
However, more often than not, my local Cabelas has .22 ammo on the shelf lately, I think the hoarding viscous circle is starting to break. What I don't understand is how people can so readily believe even the most whacky and preposterous internet conspiracy theories, but apparently can't accept the fact that 50 million+ shooters all deciding to stock up on ammo all at once can completely overwhelm the ammo supply. One thing I still remember about the terrorist attack on 9-11 was that a lot of gas stations were sold out of gasoline later that day from panic buying. Fortunately it's hard to hoard a significant amount of gasoline and the crisis didn't snowball into a viscous circle.
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yeah, you really cannot complain about those prices, not too much anyways. I have never gotten into rimfire, so I am not sure what it is "supposed" to cost in ya'lls eyes. 7c a piece? is that good?
http://www.natchezss.com/federal-aut...n-325-box.html
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