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October 8, 2015, 11:36 AM | #26 |
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How's about going to your FFL and having it shipped to a FFL out there and don't say anything to your brother. When you get out there take a ride with him to the FFL and surprise him. He does the transfer papers everything's legal and you still get your surprise without having to worry about a Felony!
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October 8, 2015, 11:42 AM | #27 |
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Ultimately, it would be easier if your brother moved to Texas.
Or you both moved to Virginia.
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October 8, 2015, 11:58 AM | #28 | |
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October 8, 2015, 12:44 PM | #29 |
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You can't simply mail it to yourself in care of your brother's address? I have seen some say only within the same state and other posts saying it may cross state lines.
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October 8, 2015, 12:54 PM | #30 | |
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October 8, 2015, 05:02 PM | #31 | |
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Thanks Frank. This from the ATF on shipping, which I think is not the same as transferring.
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October 8, 2015, 11:03 PM | #33 |
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Frank, please correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the only possible way to ship a firearm to yourself through a non-FFL-holder is if it's a long gun and it's sent through the USPS?
Though I suppose it would be possible to send a handgun to yourself if you could find a different carrier who allowed it, a carrier like DHL maybe (though I don't know anything about DHL or other less-common carriers like them).
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October 8, 2015, 11:26 PM | #34 | |
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October 9, 2015, 09:30 PM | #35 |
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Does DHL have a policy covering shipping of handguns?
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October 9, 2015, 10:05 PM | #36 | |
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Other wise they will just keep pushing us into a smaller and smaller circle.
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October 10, 2015, 08:40 AM | #37 |
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Its not as bad as it sounds in reality. Here's how to do it legally.
Have him go to a shop that does the HQL course (its 8 hours) & take it early so he can be issued his certificate in time. While he's there have him get the FFL information from the dealer & find out the transfer fees. Send the pistol to that dealer. Have your brother file to collect the gun after the waiting period (7 days IIRC) has passed. The FFL in MD or DC will do all the rest for you.
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October 10, 2015, 04:12 PM | #38 | |
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It looks like sine 2012 UPS changed its policy on shipping handguns. If this site correctly copied from the UPS site, it was permissible back in 2012.
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In post 32 I posted and linked to current USP and FedEx policy: That's all that matters. Why are you confusing things by posting UPS policy that's no longer applicable?
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Still wondering about DHL as a possible alternative, so I went to their web site. The published policy seems to indicate that no guns are allowed, but this may be for international shipments. I'll follow up with them and see if I can get confirmation regarding domestic shipments.
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October 11, 2015, 12:50 PM | #41 |
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I don't think making folk aware that the policy was different until recently is irrelevant.
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October 13, 2015, 11:19 AM | #42 | |
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DHL is not an option. They apparently only handle international shipments.
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October 15, 2015, 04:31 PM | #43 | |
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If this hasn't been mentioned yet...
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No firearms on Metro, unloaded means nothing. I live in VA and have a CCW. You can't get onto a Metro train or bus with any type of weapon or mace or pepper spray even if you never cross over the VA state line. Ship FFL to FFL, especially to states like MD. It'll be cheaper than renting a car.
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