what rifles use 30 tokarev

tahunua001 · October 3, 2011, 08:41 PM

hello all.
I'm trying to compile a list of all rilfes that are chambered in 30 Tokarev. At one point not so long ago 7.62x25 was the cheapest centerfire round out there. Even though prices are now neck and neck with 9mm I am still clinging to hope that it'll go back down and am thinking about picking up a 30 TOK firearm of some sort. Anyone out there know of any guns that use it besides the CZ52s?

raftman · October 4, 2011, 01:09 PM

As far as what rifles you're likely to find commercially available here in the US, there's only 3 that I can think of that fire 7.62x25 (although one comes from 3 or so different manufacturers).

1. There are the various semi-auto PPSh-41 copies. Some of these are better than others in terms of quality control and reliability, but they're all pretty expensive, some are said to be absolute junk. They are all either mostly or exclusively made here in the states by minor manufacturers and don't seem to have the reliability of the original weapons. The barrels are made to be of legal length (around 6 inches longer than an actual PPSh-41 SMG), these seems to add a fair amount of weight, and adversely affects the balance. Also makes it uglier.

2. There's is the PPS-43 copy, also with a much longer barrel (makes it goofy looking) and semi-auto only. The mechanics of these are quite distinct from the original, the semi-auto version is hammer-fired and fires from a closed bolt, the original had the firing pin milled into the bolt and was considerably simpler.

3. Lastly, there's the Sterling semi-auto carbine. Don't really know much about these, other than they're probably the most affordable of the bunch.

zombieslayer · October 4, 2011, 02:23 PM

Ive been tempted to buy one of the PPSh-41 copies. But I keep waiting to hear some kind of range report from someone.

October 3, 2011, 08:41 PM	#1
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	what rifles use 30 tokarev hello all. I'm trying to compile a list of all rilfes that are chambered in 30 Tokarev. At one point not so long ago 7.62x25 was the cheapest centerfire round out there. Even though prices are now neck and neck with 9mm I am still clinging to hope that it'll go back down and am thinking about picking up a 30 TOK firearm of some sort. Anyone out there know of any guns that use it besides the CZ52s? __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin Last edited by tahunua001; October 3, 2011 at 09:11 PM.

October 4, 2011, 01:09 PM	#2
raftman Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,890	As far as what rifles you're likely to find commercially available here in the US, there's only 3 that I can think of that fire 7.62x25 (although one comes from 3 or so different manufacturers). 1. There are the various semi-auto PPSh-41 copies. Some of these are better than others in terms of quality control and reliability, but they're all pretty expensive, some are said to be absolute junk. They are all either mostly or exclusively made here in the states by minor manufacturers and don't seem to have the reliability of the original weapons. The barrels are made to be of legal length (around 6 inches longer than an actual PPSh-41 SMG), these seems to add a fair amount of weight, and adversely affects the balance. Also makes it uglier. 2. There's is the PPS-43 copy, also with a much longer barrel (makes it goofy looking) and semi-auto only. The mechanics of these are quite distinct from the original, the semi-auto version is hammer-fired and fires from a closed bolt, the original had the firing pin milled into the bolt and was considerably simpler. 3. Lastly, there's the Sterling semi-auto carbine. Don't really know much about these, other than they're probably the most affordable of the bunch. __________________ "My momma, she done told me, there's heart and then there's hate If one of 'em's inside of you, the other one, it aint."

October 4, 2011, 02:23 PM	#3
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Ive been tempted to buy one of the PPSh-41 copies. But I keep waiting to hear some kind of range report from someone. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"