460 Rowland is anyone still supporting it.

BGutzman · January 25, 2011, 05:55 PM

Not long ago I ran into the stats of the 460 Rowland which is quite impressive. (44 mag performance in a customized 45 acp) I have already gone about contacting our generous Wild Alaska (on this forum) who is going to build me a kit for my Springfield XD Tactical 5 (45 ACP) which I am purchasing just for this kit.

In the mean time I have found that the J Rowland website hasnt been updated in some time and my attempts at finding out if there is a forum or core group that supports this round exist have gone unanswered.

Wildcat or not I still have to add this to my collection but does anyone know any forums or sites more specific to this round?

Any information would be appreciated... as would any info on where to purchase rounds for it as I dont reload although this maybe the perfect excuse to get into reloading...

C Philip · January 25, 2011, 07:35 PM

Cor-Bon produces factory ammo, you can buy some here. At over $1.50 per shot, you will probably want to reload if you shoot this more than a few boxes a year.

BGutzman · January 25, 2011, 07:45 PM

Thanks C Philip!

mes227 · January 25, 2011, 11:04 PM

Georgia Arms sells 460 Rowland. $0.61 a round in bulk (plus shipping).

Sgt Pepper · January 26, 2011, 12:15 AM

I just bought a bunch of rounds from Georgia Arms yesterday. They only have 230gr hollow points in stock. They said that they are waiting on another shipment of bullets to arrive from Speer.

Starline manufactures the casings, and they have plenty of them in stock. Midway also sells the Starline casings and the Corbon ammo.

I do not know of any forums dedicated to this round but there are a bunch of recipes if you look around.

HoraceHogsnort · January 26, 2011, 03:50 AM

Wilson Combat sells the 460 Rowland as the "Hunter" for about $3600. I want two!!

Hunter Customs · January 26, 2011, 10:32 AM

Because of the short OAL required of the cartridge to fit in a 1911 mag the 460 Rowland has much better performance in a revolver.
In a revolver you can take advantage of the extra length of the case.
Those interested in a 460 conversion for a 1911 might contact Bruce Warren of B C Armory, he was doing some 460 Rowland conversions at one time.
His web site is www.bcarmory.com or you can call him at (269) 729-5508.
Best Regards
Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com

BGutzman · January 26, 2011, 10:34 AM

I really appreciate all the information, the more the better. Seems like a great concept.

BGutzman · January 26, 2011, 10:46 AM

Im pretty spun up waiting to get it all put together. (460)

GONIF · January 26, 2011, 01:11 PM

I have done it to my S&W M&P45 and it works great .All I did was ream the stock pistols chamber 1/16 and use a new guide rod and heavy recoil spring .Factory mags work no problem .I reload my own rounds and keep the OAL to spec. Recoil is stout ,but manageable .

HiBC · January 26, 2011, 01:55 PM

Check the Clark Custom website.
He makes .460 Roland conversions.His includes a muzzle brake which ,per his site,is critical to making the whole thing work.
I think maybe the gas blast against the brake helps slow the unlocking of the slide.
There may be more to making it hold together than just a deeper chamber and a stronger spring,but check with Clark,I don't know for sure.

BGutzman · January 26, 2011, 04:17 PM

I take it the Mr. Rowland got out of supporting this or maybe just got too busy?

Wildalaska · January 26, 2011, 04:24 PM

Johnny still sells our XD and M&P kits. Clark makes 1911 kits. We have done several revolvers. Corbon makes ammo and Pete Pi is a big fan of the round.

That sounds supported

Sgt Pepper · January 26, 2011, 04:56 PM

Yeah, but what a niche!

GONIF · January 26, 2011, 05:54 PM

Reloading makes all things better, price,preformance,and availability .

January 25, 2011, 05:55 PM	#1
BGutzman Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2009 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 2,414	460 Rowland is anyone still supporting it. Not long ago I ran into the stats of the 460 Rowland which is quite impressive. (44 mag performance in a customized 45 acp) I have already gone about contacting our generous Wild Alaska (on this forum) who is going to build me a kit for my Springfield XD Tactical 5 (45 ACP) which I am purchasing just for this kit. In the mean time I have found that the J Rowland website hasnt been updated in some time and my attempts at finding out if there is a forum or core group that supports this round exist have gone unanswered. Wildcat or not I still have to add this to my collection but does anyone know any forums or sites more specific to this round? Any information would be appreciated... as would any info on where to purchase rounds for it as I dont reload although this maybe the perfect excuse to get into reloading... __________________ Molon Labe Last edited by BGutzman; January 27, 2011 at 08:17 PM.

January 25, 2011, 07:45 PM	#3
BGutzman Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2009 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 2,414	Thanks C Philip! __________________ Molon Labe

January 26, 2011, 10:34 AM	#8
BGutzman Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2009 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 2,414	I really appreciate all the information, the more the better. Seems like a great concept. __________________ Molon Labe

January 26, 2011, 10:46 AM	#9
BGutzman Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2009 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 2,414	Im pretty spun up waiting to get it all put together. (460) __________________ Molon Labe

January 26, 2011, 01:11 PM	#10
GONIF Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2009 Location: PHOENIX IT'S A DRY HEAT AZ Posts: 844	I have done it to my S&W M&P45 and it works great .All I did was ream the stock pistols chamber 1/16 and use a new guide rod and heavy recoil spring .Factory mags work no problem .I reload my own rounds and keep the OAL to spec. Recoil is stout ,but manageable . __________________ WHO ME ?

January 25, 2011, 07:35 PM	#2
C Philip Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2005 Location: USA Posts: 784	Cor-Bon produces factory ammo, you can buy some here. At over $1.50 per shot, you will probably want to reload if you shoot this more than a few boxes a year.

January 25, 2011, 11:04 PM	#4
mes227 Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2010 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 535	Georgia Arms sells 460 Rowland. $0.61 a round in bulk (plus shipping).

January 26, 2011, 12:15 AM	#5
Sgt Pepper Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 811	I just bought a bunch of rounds from Georgia Arms yesterday. They only have 230gr hollow points in stock. They said that they are waiting on another shipment of bullets to arrive from Speer. Starline manufactures the casings, and they have plenty of them in stock. Midway also sells the Starline casings and the Corbon ammo. I do not know of any forums dedicated to this round but there are a bunch of recipes if you look around.

January 26, 2011, 03:50 AM	#6
HoraceHogsnort Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Stanislaus Co., Mexifornia Posts: 615	Wilson Combat sells the 460 Rowland as the "Hunter" for about $3600. I want two!!

January 26, 2011, 10:32 AM	#7
Hunter Customs Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2005 Location: Osborn, Missouri Posts: 2,697	Because of the short OAL required of the cartridge to fit in a 1911 mag the 460 Rowland has much better performance in a revolver. In a revolver you can take advantage of the extra length of the case. Those interested in a 460 conversion for a 1911 might contact Bruce Warren of B C Armory, he was doing some 460 Rowland conversions at one time. His web site is www.bcarmory.com or you can call him at (269) 729-5508. Best Regards Bob Hunter www.huntercustoms.com

January 26, 2011, 01:55 PM	#11
HiBC Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2006 Posts: 8,283	Check the Clark Custom website. He makes .460 Roland conversions.His includes a muzzle brake which ,per his site,is critical to making the whole thing work. I think maybe the gas blast against the brake helps slow the unlocking of the slide. There may be more to making it hold together than just a deeper chamber and a stronger spring,but check with Clark,I don't know for sure.

January 26, 2011, 04:17 PM	#12
BGutzman Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2009 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 2,414	I take it the Mr. Rowland got out of supporting this or maybe just got too busy? __________________ Molon Labe

January 26, 2011, 04:24 PM	#13
Wildalaska Junior member Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 14,172	Johnny still sells our XD and M&P kits. Clark makes 1911 kits. We have done several revolvers. Corbon makes ammo and Pete Pi is a big fan of the round. That sounds supported WildforanichecartridgeAlaska ™©2002-2011

January 26, 2011, 04:56 PM	#14
Sgt Pepper Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 811	Yeah, but what a niche!

January 26, 2011, 05:54 PM	#15
GONIF Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2009 Location: PHOENIX IT'S A DRY HEAT AZ Posts: 844	Reloading makes all things better, price,preformance,and availability . __________________ WHO ME ?